if AP plays well they will be in the run to win the division...AP will run well..

however i think the bears are the stronger team...

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^^

dont get too hyped about chukie, he says good things about every player. when we lost to dallas he tried to say brad johnson was a very good QB

Espurs117

He managed to win a championship with him. :| Once again, you are a waste. 

omfg thats what i said after you beat us and u and ur gay sidekick laughed at me.

and btw our DEFENSE mostly won the game for us. and on top of that gruden knowing everything helped as well so brad johnson hardly did anything....so this time YOUR the waste

Hes a waste now, obviously. There is no denying that. My point is of course Gruden is gonna say that about Johnson, hes the only QB out of the hundreds hes had who has won him a Superbowl. Stop being a moron and connect 1 with the other. 

Okay sure Ryder. So Johnson did nothing? So your saying if you guys had Chad Hutchinson or Ryan Leaf it wouldnt of mattered right? I mean your defense was just that good right? It takes a stable QB to not turn the ball over in the NFL and score when needed. You need to score points to win ryder, you just can't win 0-0. 

P.S. Waste.

our defense did some scoring in that game and yes our D was that good, its on the list of top 10 greatest of all TIME!

bigger waste

You are so slow dude. No one is denying you had a top 10 defense you waste. Your saying it didnt matter who u had at QB. The most important position in the NFL. You are a moron. End your GS life right now. 

i never said it didint matter, but you make him sound like he is great. im saying any AVERAGE not MEDIOCORE QB could of been under center.

"brad johnson hardly did anything" Once again you own youself. Stop making these topics when your football knowledge is horrible. 

as a bucs fan...

IMO brad johnson definately wasnt the reason why they won the superbowl that year/were the team they were that year...the defense ran the show...as for the game 3 TDs were scored through the defense and the game beforeagainst the eagles ronde barber scored one twoo if i remember correctly (damn that was a while ago)

the offense was just an average team...with pittman in the backfield and keenan mccardell at the WR but the defense was really why they shined...

obviously if ryan leaf or chad hutchinson was at QB they wouldnt be there...but thats just a stupid argument...i dont think bradjohnson is an amazing QB...he was consistant that season...but i wouldnt say that any mediocore QB could have been undercenter and brad johnson hardly did anything...throwing 200+ yards in the superbowl isnt nothing IMO.

kyle orton :lol:

i knew from the beginning simms was the better QB

i thought it was a sweet movie