[QUOTE="clubsammich91"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I figure the cost of games will decrease soon, after all the Wii casual boom.

I could play in this generation for another 10 years for all I care. I dont want gaming to get much more expensive. If the future of gaming looks like Killzone 2, RE5, Uncharted 2, and Gears 2, I think I could live it for another decade.

I'll get blasted for saying that, but it'd be nice if devs werent under the gun to make a 5 million copy seller or go under with every game. And I certainly dont want them to pass that cost to us, the paying gamer.

carljohnson3456

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

Ok I got to watch it now.

None of this would had to be considered if games weren't costing $20+ million to make...carljohnson3456

I could play in this generation for another 10 years for all I care. I dont want gaming to get much more expensive. If the future of gaming looks like Killzone 2, RE5, Uncharted 2, and Gears 2, I think I could live it for another decade.

I'll get blasted for saying that, but it'd be nice if devs werent under the gun to make a 5 million copy seller or go under with every game. And I certainly dont want them to pass that cost to us, the paying gamer.

A:Graphics don't have too far to go before they can't go any further

B: The cost of a new system would be outrageously high and in this economy, no one would be dumb enough to be an early adopter.

[QUOTE="tirralirra"]

Of course, I too can argue for the games I love on console, both casual and more stimulating games. That's not to too PC has no casual games either such as World of Goo (a more casual thinking game i suppose). My point is more to point towards generalisations. Furthermore, you're totally right about genre I love on consoles such as platformers, which I'd say is a genre the PC is really lacking in, to a point where I feel its safe to say, that the console is more varied in its types of games compared to PC (this much be counted in percentages due to the massive library which the PC boasts and which consolites seem to be unaware of).Cerberus_Legion

I quite enjoy many of PC's pioneering genres, such as RTS, TBS, and so on. Especially RTS. I want a better PC. :( This piece of crap I have now can barely run games made five years ago on optimal settings. I dislike integrated processors. Sooner or later, I shall have a competent gaming PC, but until then, I will continue to enjoy my games on consoles, which I grew up with.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]But this will not change the fact that the game will look great on consoles as well. Once again I will say this as clearly as I can. The PC version of Crysis 2 will look better than the console version, but that wont stop the console versions from looking great. Let me repeat that one more time just so we're clear. the console versions will look great, but the PC version will look better.AnnoyedDragon

I'm not questioning that, despite your repeated attempts to suggest I am. I have clearly stated what post I am referring to; and I have said I have noticed you are attempting to use this post in an effort to cover up the initial comment. This is a rework from what you originally said to make it sound less of an attack on PC, this is not what I am criticising, I explained that earlier.

You have repeatedly avoided admitting to your original comment, insisting the response that came later was the true meaning; when the original is clearly meant to jab at PC. If you refuse to recognise what you yourself said then there isn't much point in continuing, you will just continue to push this while I keep pointing out I am referring to your first comment.

Later.

Because the minute people realize this, they become defensive about it:

shakmaster13

It's pretty easy to talk smack about other peoples games when your game isn't even on the shelf yet eh?

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

Ehhh .I really don't understand the point you're trying to made here dude. I could make an argument about how there is a reason why Crysis 2 is going to consoles instead of being a PC exclusive, or I could point out that Cryengine 3 is being designed for all 3 systems rather than just the PC.

AnnoyedDragon

And I would counter by pointing out the cross platform orientation of this generation, leading to games on both PC and console going cross platform to accommodate development costs, says nothing bad about PC or consoles. It is simply developers adapting to rising content development costs, Crysis made a suitable profit; but with budgets in the $20 million range went cross platform to access a larger audience.

If you attempted to spin this as saying something bad about PC; I could simply point out the number of games going cross platform on consoles as well. On top of that I could point out that despite the cross platform orientation of this generation, PC has more 3rd party exclusives.

In the end however, you would be in the wrong for attempting to make such a criticism. You started this with a insult to PC, a insult I criticised. You would respond to my criticism of your insult by attempting to further insult PC? That would just further put you in the wrong.

To clarify my original point, I was saying that Crysis 1 was the game for PC gamers to flaunt their superiority at console gamers and now with Crysis 2 going to consoles as well that superiority will take a pretty big blow. Since we haven't even seen a single screenshot of the game on any platform it would be stupid of me and you to say which version looks better than the other. But what I do know is that the game will look great on all 3 platforms. Pleas stop twisting my words.

clubsammich91

Considering we have multiple sources of information that indicate the impact consoles specification has had on Crysis, this image just being one example, how would it diminish PC's technological advantage? To do that consoles would have to match or come near to PC capability, doing with 2005 hardware what PC needed at least 2008 to run. Seeing how the sources we have show consoles are not doing that, it would not diminish PCs performance advantage in the slightest.

If you honestly believe consoles 'might' do just that, then you are demonstrating you are either highly uninformed about PC capability; or are too biased to recognise that. I don't have to twist your words because what you are saying is clear enough, despite your repeated denial of your own words. You think consoles are right up there, just under PC capability, despite half a decade passing since their hardware was finalized. You think because Crysis is coming to consoles then PC capability is diminished, despite there being various examples of consoles failing to match the capability you think has been diminished.

Do you even know that Crysis has been converted to Cell streaming as a result of console involvement? If not you don't know enough to comment on what consoles are achieving, it isn't what Crysis was doing on PC, that's for sure.

Like all systems, it's the fanboys that people have problems with. PC fanboys have had a chokehold here for a while now though.

[QUOTE="clubsammich91"]

First of all, wasn't assigning any stereotype to anybody. Second, I really don't understand the argument your trying to make. Yes, consoles have remained static while PC technology has improved over the years. But Crytech is a smart company and I'm sure they will make a great looking game on all 3 platforms and that is all I'm saying. I don't know why your turning "This game will look great all around" into "This game will look exactly the same all around" In other words, the PC version will look better, but the console versions will still look fantastic.

AnnoyedDragon

No, you said consoles using old tech will look nearly as good as PCs using new tech. That it will look good on all systems but better on PC was a response made after the original comment. Your initial comment was meant as an attack on PC gaming, you said PC gamers are angry because the game that demonstrated PC capability would be done 'nearly as good' on console hardware.

You didn't say it would look good on all systems; with PC being better. You said PC progress doesn't count for much; because these cheap 2005 systems would produce nearly the same results. That PC gamers were aware of this and that is why they are angry.

I don't think you realize what a can of worms you were opening up there, in fact you probably do and that's why you are trying to change its meaning when what you said initially was clear.

The only bashers of Crysis 2 are PC fanboys angry to see their behemoth FPS that solidified their superiority be done with nearly the same results on the consoles.

clubsammich91

Honestly I deal with console gamer comments all day so I can just ignore this, it's that you are trying to deny it that has my attention.