I had an error too today, I had to uninstall and reinstall the goddamn thing.

[QUOTE="col_hannibal"]Also, fatshodan, you're saying that most developers that complain about piracy don't deserve strong sales, so by this logic, if the game sucks it's alright to pirate it. Nitrous2O

I don't believe he's making that connection at all.

I believe (correct me if wrong) he's saying it's uncanny how the developers that complain about piracy tend to have also have put games out on the market that aren't very good or are games, for a variety of reasons, PC gamers don't or haven't embraced. There's some subjectivity here, but look at the latest from Epic for example.

In my mind, indeed, no developer deserves to have their games pirated. Period. Bottom line. However, they don't all deserve strong sales either.

[QUOTE="col_hannibal"]What's wrong with having games like Crysis? I see nothing wrong, just like Hollywood. A game that costs millions to develop doesn't automatically mean it's crap. Lidve

To have GREEEEAT STORY you dont need billions. You need one talented writter or even some old books like lets say SHAKESPEAR or AGATHA CHRISTIE lol

To have GREAT music you dont need ORCHESTRA or something that is 83247872378 dollars... You can have GREEEAT music with 3 instrumets.

Voice acting can be done by programers or some rookies, you dont need JOHN TRAVOLTA lol or some expencive actors

Only things that need more money (but not necesery too much ) = programing , modeling etc.

But even that can be done nicely with mediocore budget.

You dont need to be EA to make great game. Being EA = easier to possibly make great game, but when you are on top, you want more money , and thats why games are mostly made nowdays .. just because of money lol

The thing is the gaming industry is all about money, just like the music industry, film industry, etc. It's a business, and developers have every right to complain about their products not earning them enough money.

Explain games like Sins of Solar Empire that are unprotected and still sell well

What companies need to do is make games cheaper

I mean WHO CARES ABOUT LISTENING SOME FANCY ACTOR ACTRESS IN GAME ??? They usualy SUCK + they are expencive to hire = game more expencive

Why dont you just put few talented rookies that could use a buck and save money + make game cheaper = more people will buy it

But noooo, they spend like 9389834289432 milions on advertising alone and than fail,becose no advertisment can replace crappy game

Best advertisment = game scoring high on review sites

Lidve

Everyone is using Sins of a Solar Empire as an example for how well the PC is doing. How well did it sell? I don't know the numbers, but I'd say 1 million, 1.5 million, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. Ok, so a console game sells, what, 3-5 millions, yet there are, according to some figures, 260 million PC gamers, when you look at it this way, it suddenly stops being that impressive.

Also, you're saying we should have only small budget titles, why? What's wrong with having games like Crysis? I see nothing wrong, just like Hollywood. A game that costs millions to develop doesn't automatically mean it's crap.

The PC is the most widely distributed gaming system, yet consoles that have 20 million units or so are pulling more impressive numbers in game sales. Piracy has always been the bane of PC gaming. I'm not saying that the PC market isn't lucerative, however without piracy it would be so much more so. Before torrents there were warez and crack sites and now we have torrents and sharing sites and all that crap it is becoming a joke for some people to buy PC games. PC gaming has become even more popular for people because it allows them to download cool games for free, it's such a shame. How many million sellers do PC games have compared to consoles? Sure, I'm not saying it is related to piracy alone, but it is a big part. Marketing is another part, but nobody is convinced that serious money can be made on PC to spend a lot of marketing on it, except for a few exceptions. Also, where are the review sites? When a big console game is released everybody and their grandma are eager to review it and you hear about it for weeks. When a PC game is released, very few popular PC review sites are left, maybe it's because people don't bother with the reviews, they just pirate the game since they get it for free anyway. Yeah yeah, consoles have pirates too, but they are not as many as PC's apparently! So next time you see a developer complaining about piracy causing them so much grief on PC, give them a break, they are not making excuses for bad games, they just spent a lot of effort and reasonably want to get rewarded.hamidious

Yes, you are right, piracy is a serious issue for the PC. It's all because of the torrents sites that make pirating games so easy, I still can't believe that they are still legal, considering the fact that everything on those sites is copyrighted.

Also, fatshodan, you're saying that most developers that complain about piracy don't deserve strong sales, so by this logic, if the game sucks it's alright to pirate it. That's wrong, even if the game is bad, that still doesn't make it right to pirate the game. The PC has the largest userbase, yet console games sell millions upon millions, why is that? Is it because all PC games suck? No, it is because people download games for free.

LoL, very funny videos, thanks.

You might want to try the Orange Box, Game has a special offer right now, 19 pounds instead of 30 pounds. If you want online games, then Team Fortress 2 is one of the best online shooters available. Also, you could try Battlefield 2, the Deluxe Edition is 15.99 pounds.

I can't recommend any MMOs since I don't play any, but if you're looking for online games, then I'd suggest Team Fortress 2 and Battlefield 2.

[QUOTE="Squeets"]They did that for a game once and it enraged the community... they had to undergo several extra hours of installation to download and install a required file from the internet... and unecessary burden for people who purchase the game legally...slayer_of_souls

An burden yeah, but maybe a system like that is needed. Piracy is killing the game industry. Search any torrents site and you can find games that were released only a few days before with no cd cracks available already and with download figures numbering in the thousands

At 50-100 bucks a game thats a lot of lost money

Well, torrents sites are a huge part of the problem, I am surprised they are still legal, considering the fact that they only host copyrighted material, like, movies, games, music, etc. Killing these sites would definitely help decrease the negative effect piracy has on the industry.

I think we have another Oblivion on our hands, console gamers and reviewers are going to praise this game like the second coming of Jesus, but the gamers that are looking for a true RPG with complex gameplay, character development and good story, will be very disappointed. Fallout 3 looks pretty much like Oblivion, and it also inherits a lot of its problems, if we are to believe Eurogamer's preview.

I for one will not be buying this game, especially after Eurogamer's preview, I know a lot of people bash this website, but they are very reliable, in my opinion, and so far I agree with pretty much every review they published.

To sum up, Fallout 3 will be a success, but a mediocre game at best, that will attract console gamers.