@hardwenzen: what we all have to remember is 'good looking' is a subjective opinion which varies form person to person

of course you can objectively call a game bad looking, like Cyberpunk on the Original consoles at launch but ultimately one mans trash is another mans gold

@hardwenzen: you can't judge any game by an image mate

simply because it could look like the dogs proverbials but run like absolute rubbish and be riddled with bugs

that and most screenshots are bullshots anyway

the only way you can judge a game is to play it for yourself ,which is why i don't actually judge anything on the playstation anymore because i simply don't play games on one

@getyeryayasout: took a time out for about 5 years due to MH problems

@tjandmia: of course they can compete,it whether they can 'win' or not (which is subjective anyway)

but it may be a moot point, they appear to be trying to consolidate different parts of the market, MS is pushing games as a service whereas SONY is still more about single player offline experiences, a market underestimated by Publishers and developers thats is still very relevant.

@warmblur: Oblivion when it first released, so much time spent trying to find workarounds to glitched quest and Crashes........Good times.....like Fallout new vegas and don't even get e started on downtown boston in Fallout 4

@simple-facts: Things have changed so much in gaming, i started on the Zx spectrum 48K and obviously back then Graphics wasn't the most important thing

Now 'Fun factor' has been replaced with 'herr, derr Graphics

i had a ton of fun on games like Genesis alpha one this gen, Graphics where complete rubbish but the gameplay loop kept me coming back

All my favorite games this gen Had rubbish graphics from a technical standpoint, state of decay 2, Genesis alpha one, skyrim SE and fallout 4 for example

@simple-facts: i agree simply because i am still rocking an Xbox one and i have no intention of upgrading anytime soon

and as far as the Xbox one goes it looks good for the aging hardware

@x_hedon: Forza was a bit of an enigma to be honest,it was all about Gran turismo and then the first forza game relegated Gran Turismo to niche title virtually overnight and Forza Horizon Buried it

it's one of the areas where MS absolutely mugged Sony for it's lunch money

@x_hedon: to be fair i have never really worried about which console has the better Graphics, both have strengths and weaknesses and it's not just down to what the hardware can or cannot do

an experienced developer like epic or Id create engines that can simply produce better looking games then Propriety engines made by individual developers simply because they are the most experienced in the industry

John Carmack from ID created the FPS with Wolfenstein and doom using an engine called fuzzy duck that had 500,000 lines of code, he then rewrote the engine for doom 3 which was leagues ahead of it's time in the graphics department

yet his engine always played second fiddle to the unreal engine

but Forza is built using the Forzatech engine which is an amazing engine and probably the best for racing games

@hardwenzen: it does look good.....for Halo and it's not a bad looking game at all, obviously not on par with whats been done on UE5 but thats to be expected

Unreal Engine has been around for 22 years now and has always been a premier engine like it's rival Quake engine (now Id Tech)

and i like Halo but i doubt this will get more than one playthrough because i myself find thew graphics to be a little too Disney and squeaky clean.