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#1 dreman999
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@vl4d_l3nin: what terrorism have they done?

List them.

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#2  Edited By dreman999
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@madrocketeer: 1. Do understand that it is being made. For any content to continued to be added to a game it has to be planned for and made first. That ia how bioware plan out all there added content. And it has work ith them making some of the best dlc's in gaming.

As you asked " did that make it clear what their future plans are?" And the awnser is yes. Hech it's coming next month.

Sorry but it is not possible to make great end game at launch basef on the nature of how games are made.

2.ofcourse it matters because it effect player enjoyment. If you have one side who want story and the other who want gameplay in an mmo one or the other has to give. And this game was never made to be a deep interactive story because you are playing it with other people.

Even warframe which has the best story in their mmo shooter know they need to keep deep story seperate from multiplayer.

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#3  Edited By dreman999
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@madrocketeer: 1. They already gave us details on that.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.altchar.com/games-news/588581/ea-shed-more-light-on-anthems-post-launch-content/amp

2. You Still do not get it. The issue here is on the so cool side of it. If the issue here is that you brought the horse to water and they are not drinking. The solution is not providing silly straws to get them to drink. It is about player intrest. If you have a game were you have a story and want to make deep character how do you do it for player with one set that care about story and others that do not and want to play?

The issue here is on the players side.

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#4 dreman999
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@madrocketeer:

1.seriously. It's not that simple. Remember they also are working on more content later and make the game work on launch. Consider how the hotdog is made not just blindly want a good tasting hot dog.

2. Right because that is some how simple. Do you have any idea to do that? Because if you take to time to think about then you'll see that point is irrational. The issue here is on the social side not on the gameplay side. Having one player wanting to deal with story. And one set of player wanting to focus on game play makes it impossible to make a good stable story because of social aspects not game play aspects. Your asking bioware to fix something out side their control.

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@madrocketeer: 1. It's 3 mission. Also how game developmentnt works does not allowtime for end game to be the focus. You are saying they should just try. How can they?

Why focus on game design for missions to do after you finished the game a level up and not focus on the part of the game played the most? They have to deal with bug finding, net code and mission design and people are complaining about stuff to do after the game is done?

2.that ia not my arguing point. My point is the game play style here counters bioware story still. Let's say you are doing mission with your friends. You do the mission then you have to stop to talk to someone. Imagine doing a bioware style conversation with characters with 3 other people waiting for you? Like how Shepard can stop and ask many questions and get personal in fo from characters. Imagine if one or more just want to get back to the combat. How do you think how fustating people would get waiting for one guy to finish talking with a character, which you are not a part of, so you can get back into the game.

That's why they can't focus on story in an mmo. Hech, even when swtor did it they only allowed the mass effect style conversions at times the player was by themselves.

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#6  Edited By dreman999
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@musalala: I'm compearing them at launch.

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@madrocketeer: 1.you are not getting my point. My point is that it is not possible to have end game at launch. You are saying every mom that came out has that problem needs to address it. That can not be done.

You it is not possilbe to have substantial end game content at launch. You have to cut content to do that. That is the issue. Think for a moment how can any game company make end game at laugh with out cutting content?

2. Take the time to note how bioware does it's story content.....how the need to stop to develop characters.

How can that be done with a looter shooter.

3. Alright , I'll admit I do not have enough info of the main mission quest to know it's flaws but that is because I do not want to see spoilers. This issue ia just a wait and see for now.

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#8 dreman999
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@madrocketeer: 1. It's not about goving a free pass. It's about fact that it is impossible to have any good end game at launch. No mom game has good end game at launch because it's impossible to do so. It would mean cuting content for players to do on game till later which would make the main game much weaker.

I'm saying scoring games like this at launch is flawed in the first place.

2.dude. I know it's a bioware game. But I also understand genres. Based on the genre it's not possible for this to be a good a story like other bioware games. This is not an rpg where play a role in dialogue heavy story. This is a looter shooter were you fight monsters and explore.

If you want story play an rpg or game that can stop and focus on it.

3. This we have to strongly disagree. Destiny 1 barely had a story and survied only based on gum play. Warframe you literally had to play 10 to 30 hours of gameplay just get the story. And in those 10 to 30 hours you literally have no motive or direction to what to do out side the tutorial levels which are not that engaging in the first place. You have to look up online tutorials from fans to know what to do or find a goal. Your only draw in the game in the first 10 to 30 hours is gameplay, getting loot, and building frames and new weapons. And that is the only draw you have till you focus on getting to the aecond dream.

Sorry but all mom looter shooters have that issue.

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#9 dreman999
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@zaryia: looter shootera leveling does not end when you reach max level. After that it's just gear maxing. Warframe is an example of this.

And I'm not saying no one gets to end game at launch, I'm say no MMO on it's launch has any subatancal end game. That come later for years.

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#10  Edited By dreman999
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@with_teeth26: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnthemTheGame/hot

Also most people are still playing the game.