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#1 drucom
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[QUOTE="ACESandElGHTS"]

[QUOTE="craig828"]What questions...jointed

Precisely. Thank God the atheists are this "smart," or believers would have real trouble.

Believers FTW.

haha..I'll let that speak for itself

I'll let your naivety to his satirical post speak for itself then.
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#2 drucom
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They have a few dirty seeds (Hermann Goehring, Dr. Mengele, etc). But Germany is an awesome country. I'm thinking of pursuing my Master of Architecture degree when I get my Bachelor's there.
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#3 drucom
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[QUOTE="drucom"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="ACESandElGHTS"]

[QUOTE="espoac"]This is a great video because it forces Christians to make all sorts of ridiculous rationalizations for their all-knowing, all-powerful god, like "god works in mysterious ways". To anybody that really thinks about these questions and can still believe in a god, I ask "what emotional need do you have that causes you to delude yourself?", "does the truth scare you?".jointed

Perhaps the Way, the Truth and the Light scares you. What emotional need do you have that causes you to deny others' beliefs?

because religion hurts humanity as a whole....

It's silly and any rational human being would understand that there is no god.....Most christians are raised that way and christianity makes complete sense to them.....it's sad but actually true

What do you mean when you say that religion has hurt the world as a who;e? Because some wars begin due to religious conflict? I suggest you actually try to think about that question before you answer it. Simply becase people say it is a religious war does not mean that God (or the deity in question if one is not Christian or Muslim) supports the war. Any rational human being? Are you saying all religious people are irrational? Is this why there are Ph.D graduates with a specialization in theology?Would you consider them irrational too?[/QUOTE]

It doesnt matter if "god" supports the war or not, it's still fought due to religion...

If they're religious....yes ofcourse

See, what you are doing is what is called a "fallacy", or an error in logic. 'Religious' wars are never actually 'religious'. Imagine if the Christian Pope were to say that all of Africa was to be destroyed. Does this mean God himself thinks like this?
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[QUOTE="craig828"]What questions...ACESandElGHTS

Precisely. Thank God the atheists are this "smart," or believers would have real trouble.

Believers FTW.

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I don't know, I haven't played GTA San AndrES. Is it a new game, similar to San Andreas?
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[QUOTE="ACESandElGHTS"]

[QUOTE="espoac"]This is a great video because it forces Christians to make all sorts of ridiculous rationalizations for their all-knowing, all-powerful god, like "god works in mysterious ways". To anybody that really thinks about these questions and can still believe in a god, I ask "what emotional need do you have that causes you to delude yourself?", "does the truth scare you?".jointed

Perhaps the Way, the Truth and the Light scares you. What emotional need do you have that causes you to deny others' beliefs?

because religion hurts humanity as a whole....

It's silly and any rational human being would understand that there is no god.....Most christians are raised that way and christianity makes complete sense to them.....it's sad but actually true

What do you mean when you say that religion has hurt the world as a who;e? Because some wars begin due to religious conflict? I suggest you actually try to think about that question before you answer it. Simply becase people say it is a religious war does not mean that God (or the deity in question if one is not Christian or Muslim) supports the war. Any rational human being? Are you saying all religious people are irrational? Is this why there are Ph.D graduates with a specialization in theology? Would you consider them irrational too?
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What is the truth, to you? Is there evidence that God exists? No. Is there evidence that he does NOT exist? No. This is where FAITH comes into play. Religios people have faith, and this is why they believe in what they believe (this is why I believe in God, because as a Catholic I have faith in God). I don't have any emotional need. As I said before, I am probably Catholic because I was raised as one. I have asked myself if God exists or not before. It is natural to question the unknown. What I don't understand is why the maker of the video himself makes ludicrous assumptions himself. The director states at around 5:00 minutes into the video, that "Why would an all-knowing God write nonsense?" First of all, God did not write the Bible. Jesus himself did not write the Bible. The only person that is unaware of this fact is the director himself. Second of all, it's not nonsense. I am offended at such crude comments. There is no statement in the Bible that claims it is 100% true. Nowhere does it say that everything that occurs in the Bible occured in real life. In fact, when I was in Cathechism class, before I made my Communion (when I became a part of God), I was taught that one SHOULDN'T take the Bible's stories as literal happenings. Instead, they serve as examples to teach lessons. IF you read verses, they have an overall idea. Do not kill. Do not steal. Do not use the Lord's name in vain. This sort of thing. This video did not force me to make any "ridiculous rationalizations", actually. I can rationalize every question with an appropiate answer that is not ridiculous at all. I have already 'rationalized' the first in my first post, so I'll do this for all other questions. Question 2: Why are there so many people starving in the world? I can rationalize this question with another. Why are there 793 billionaires in the world? Did God make them rich? No. God did not force these people to starve. Prayer is not enough. God is omnipotent in the way that he is all powerful. I have already described in my first post how this is not literal, and the answer to this question is explained in my first post (I will not write it again as I am tired). Question 3: Why does God demand the death of so many innocent people? God has never stated this. The people who wrote the Bible stated this. Theoretically, God demands that we all die, as we are all born under sin. We must repent our sins to be forgiven. This is one of the reasons Jesus sacrificed himself. He did so to save us from sin. He took our punishment, and He suffered for our sins. Question 4: Why does the Bible contain so much anti-scientific nonsense? I answered this in the first part of this post. Question 5: Why is God such a huge proponent of slavery? As I said before, He did not write the Bible. Humans wrote the Bible. God's words can be confusing. Also, who can truly say that the people who wrote the Bible did not slightly include their own thinking into it? This is one of the main arguments to why the Old Testament and the New Testament have so many differences. Why God seems to be more 'nice' and 'caring' in the New Testament. This is because the period it was written on was a different time than the period the Old Testament was written in. Question 6: Why do bad things happen to good people? This question is possibly the worst in the video. He does not define what a bad thing is, and he does not define what a good person is. An error in logic. This question should have been omitted, as in my opinion he only included it as a filler to have 10 questions and not less. This point is reinforced as he only has any (although rather insubstantial) argument for the first few questions. The last few, he simply states the Christians have to 'create strange rationalizations to defend God'. This argument of his will not win over anyone that is intelligent. Question 7: Why didn't any of Jesus' miracles in the Bible leave any evidence? Like I said before, not everything that is written in the Bible is literal. I believe that Jesus existed. There is evidence of his existence as a man. It is our faith that allows us to believe he was the Son of God, and he carried through all these miracles. Question 8: How do we explain the fact that Jesus has never appeared to you? How would you go about explaining this? Some people claim to have seen Him, most don't. I don't see this as an argument against Christianity. Can people see evolution? No. But do many believe in evolution? Think about it. Both his question and mine are equal in value, as they are value-less. Question 9: Why would Jesus want you to eat His body and drink His blood? I take back my earlier comment, this is the most pointless question in the entire video. In the Bible, does it actually state that Jesus offers His own flesh and blood? No. He refers to His flesh as the meat they will eat, and to His blood as the wine they will drink, in the Last Supper. This is completely symbolic. I would like to ask the maker of the video if he knows what a symbol of something is. I think he is the only one that has lowered to such petty arguments as assuming symbols are to be taken literally. Question 10: Why do Christians get divorced at the same rate as non-Christians? No one is perfect. In fact, most Christians are not devout Christians. Although a Christian has to follow certain guidelines, personal emotions still play a big role in one's life. God would rather you do what will make you happy and repent getting hastily married, than you living a life of unhappiness with a person you don't love, as that would be you doing a disservice to both yourself and your spouse. So there you go, all 10 questions answered.
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#8 drucom
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What ? One million dollars is my monthly income :Pspikegms
lol. Where did you make your avatar? I used to have one I made like that in a website, but I lost the link to the site. 2ndWonder: For my tastes, I don't think it would be enough.
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#9 drucom
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I've only gone as far as question one and, as a Roman Catholic with prior education in theory of knowledge, I have studied these kinds of questions before. First of all, the person who compiled this video makes a fallacy BEFORE he even starts asking questions? Being any of those professions except a few (teachers are an exception) does not constitute an expertise in the area of theology, the study of religion, and it's Christian branch. I will admit that if I had been born in Morocco from Moroccan parents, I would probably be Muslim. I also admit that I would be Jewish if I had been born from a Jewish background. This is a fact. I am a Roman Catholic because my family is predominantly Roman Catholic, from a Spanish background. But simply being a Catholic does not make me an expert in Catholicism. Far from it, in fact. The answer to the first question is that God acts in mysterious ways. Christians find strength in God. A cancer can be healed. This is a fact. And I don't mean that it can be healed through religious powers (I have mixed feelings about statements like this). I mean that modern techniques like chemotherapy can cause a cancer to be eradicated. There is no established medical procedure that can 'heal' an amputee. There have been significant breakthrough's: 'donated' arms have been 'attached' to people, and they can function to do basic movements and actions. The maker of this video, here then, makes another fallacy. What if, when Christians say that God can heal cancers, they mean that He guides the patient to his/her 'salvation', I'll call it, or vice-versa (specialized doctors somehow receive knowledge of the cancer victim and decide to help). This thinking can be applied to an amputee, no? I'll watch the rest and make a summary of my thoughts later.
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#10 drucom
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Being offended by someone you don't even know insulting you on a game-related forum is possibly the most pathetic thing you could do, in my opinion. I don't get offended by anything on the Internet.