[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

LJS9502_basic

Hey, it was fun to talk about though... i even got to go into my famous "mongols are amazing rant"

i love how this thread is no longer remotely related to the OP.

[QUOTE="J-man45"]

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Looks more like someone covering their eyes than facepalming. Appropriate given the subject matter and your head in the sand mentality.

hartsickdiscipl

It's a bear.

And whatever, since your statement reminds me of that thread you made a while back about 9/11 conspiracies (or maybe you were just a huge contributor, whatever), I realize I don't have patience to argue with you about that.

You're right. It's not at all abnormal for 3 steel-framed buildings to fall within their own footprint on the same day within their footprint from random plane impacts on just 2 of the buildings. Totally plausible:lol: Even more mundane- Seeing the BBC report that building 7 had fallen a good 20 minutes before it did.

umm there was nothing architecturally abnormal about the way the towers fell.

may i inquire as to where this information was obtained?

[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Not a good idea. Government and religion should NEVER mix.LJS9502_basic

More accurately they made sure government didn't interfere with religion.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i doubt that, but considering the mongol/horse relationship it may have happened during some of the latter marches.

TehFuneral

Im sure I read it somewhere back in school, but im not a history major nor was I intrested much in Mongols very much.

But in terms of war tactics it was astonishing, even the Arabs with their Arabian horses have never done it.

an army of 100% horse archers is kinda hard to match.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

i doubt that, but considering the mongol/horse relationship it may have happened during some of the latter marches.

TehFuneral

Im sure I read it somewhere back in school, but im not a history major nor was I intrested much in Mongols very much.

But in terms of war tactics it was astonishing, even the Arabs with their Arabian horses have never done it.

an army of 100% horse archers is kinda hard to match.

[QUOTE="Neoklondiak"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] you should come to islam for the love of your creator, not just for this girl.

GrayF0X786

Well any Creator that created her I can love.

that's the best kind of blindness.;)

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

i doubt that, but considering the mongol/horse relationship i can imagine it might have happened in some of the latter marches.

:|

What about the invasion and destruction of Bagdad?

I never personally heard any book praising the mongols for other than their war tactics.

TehFuneral

please check out this book, i read it in high school , a real eyeopener.

and yes the mongols were brutal, but they were remarkably less so then the rest of the world.

for example torture was extremely taboo in their religion, as was most forms of bloodshed. which is why they relied on the bow , as to see or touch blood in mongol culture was considered highly disgusting.

Wait what?

I could have sworn I read somewhere than Mongols drink their own horse blood if they had no water.

i doubt that, but considering the mongol/horse relationship it may have happened during some of the latter marches.

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="GrayF0X786"] speaking of Mongols what happened to the Muslims after the Mongols ripped right through the muslim world, did islam change to the religion of Mogolism?

BossPerson

the mongols had a very loose religion which they never imposed on anyone, and allowed all conquered states to retain their religions.

in fact the mongols are considered one of the the most religiously tolerant group in history. oh and this golden age of Islamic learning was also brought about by mongol rule, in fact the Renaissance was caused by the mongols too.

i could list forever the contributions of the mongols, they are a people to be respected.

i never said the mongols weren't brutal in their conquest, its what happened after that made them amazing.

ps the burning of Baghdad wasn't exactly uncalled for, it was a time of war and the Islamic kings did provoke the mongols in the first place,

the mongols preferred to keep conquered cities profitable and intact, they rarely burned them.

pps I'm American, just with a deep interest in history.

also if want to read up on this there's this great book, pretty short too.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/3136673?adid=22222222227001132007&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=14129042950&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

the mongols had a very loose religion which they never imposed on anyone, and allowed all conquered states to retain their religions.

in fact the mongols are considered one of the the most religiously tolerant group in history. oh and this golden age of Islamic learning was also brought about by mongol rule, in fact the Renaissance was caused by the mongols too.

i could list forever the contributions of the mongols, they are a people to be respected.

TehFuneral

:|

What about the invasion and destruction of Bagdad?

I never personally heard any book praising the mongols for other than their war tactics.

please check out this book, i read it in high school , a real eyeopener.

and yes the mongols were brutal, but they were remarkably less so then the rest of the world.

for example torture was extremely taboo in their religion, as was most forms of bloodshed. which is why they relied on the bow , as to see or touch blood in mongol culture was considered highly disgusting.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/3136673?adid=22222222227001132007&wmlspartner=wlpa&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=&wl3=14129042950&wl4=&wl5=pla&veh=sem