I think the most hardcore thiests and athiests are not insecure but are overconfident in their beliefs. They simply don't believe it possible that their viewpoint is not as evident to others as it is to them and thus go on their crusade.
In my experience, people with a little doubt tend to be more open-minded and reasonable.
it does however represent the most vocal segment of atheism.
however my entire point was that people who bash others for believing in god are generally idiots with idea of how empiric thinking and the scientific method works.
a true agnostic should never insult someone just because they are religious and then claim science backs them.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Atheists have indeed converted to Catholicism. It's not unheard of and who are you to tell them what faith they should chose?Zeviander
I'm not telling them what they should choose, I just think that no one could be an atheist, and then choose to convert to any religion. It just suggests to me that either (1) they were never actually an atheist, but merely did not know what they believed and chose the convenient label at the time or (2) they had a severely traumatic event happen in their life (loss of a loved one, cancer diagnosis) that they became afraid of the unknown (probably because they did not question it before, and/or the event totally changed who they were) and reached out to religion for the answer (as science/atheism doesn't deal with personal psychological issues, they might have felt empty and clinged.to the first comforting idea that came their way). I have never, once, understood how someone, who genuinely disbelieves in God/religion, and ascribes to the process of logic, reason and science, could then affirm that, suddenly, God exists, and further, can become wine/crackers through a ritual. Whether it be Kenneth Miller, GabuEx, or Paul Williams... while I still respect the person, I cannot grasp such a change. There is also the issue of what "God" is being defined as... because in many cases, the genuine conversions to religion by atheists, usually involves a lot of vague, pantheistic language, rather than the direct, literal language of fundamentalists. Maybe that is why I could never actually assent to a religious belief, and only held them because I wanted something more comforting than the harsh reality of sheer insignificance and meaningless. Then again, I eventually did find comfort in those things, as it empowers me to do everything I can with this life rather than hope something happens after.
please don't group science with atheism. atheism denies god because they want to. science ignores god because they can neither prove nor disprove his existence.
a scientific and an atheistic view of the world are in direct contrast with each other.
a scientific person stops caring about the existence god after he figures out he cant disprove or prove him. an atheist preaches and moans about the non existence of god when they have no evidence to back their ravings.
in reality its just as stupid to not believe in a man in the clouds as it is to believe in him because there is no evidence to support or disprove his existence.
well totalitarianism was just a step stone for humanity. it consolidated power and moved us from the feudal system. and democracy served its purpose by moving us from monarchies and totalitarianism but keeping consolidated power and improving human freedoms.
now we should be moving as far away as we can from democracy and towards technocracy(look it up). the general populace is not fit to choose the leader of a country because they know nothing about running one. just like the people they elect.
politics and politicians have no place in government.
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