[QUOTE="MasterYevon"]I keep seeing other people with builds on this forum almost as good as those for half the price. You sure you wanna blow all that cash on an OEM desktop?RayvinAzn

Half? I'd love to see a comparable PC build for half. A fair bit more? Sure, at that level. Cut back to something closer to the base model however, and you've got a decently priced machine.

And he's sure, he mentioned that already. Respect the thread creators wishes.

thanks alot dude i appreciate the help

now i know most of you will yell BUILD! but that is impractcal for me to do so please dont try to convince me about it or flame me for it im definatly buying a prebuilt dell. i just wanted to know which computer of the 2 is the better deal..ill be playing games at 1680x1050.. i also wanted to know which processor youd recommend if im not able to overclock. the Q6600 Quad at 2.4ghz or the Core 2 E8400 at 3.0 ghz.. You have no idea how much your help is appreciated.

1) XPS 630 $1920 shipped 3 year warranty

Motherboard NVIDIA® nForce 650i SLI chipset

**** Intel® Core™2 E8400 (6MB,3.0 GHz, 1333FSB) OR Q6600@ 2.4 ghz stock no oc ..... ( which one do you reccomend)

Genuine Windows Vista® Home Premium

Dual nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB

Dell 19 in 1 Media Reader with Bluetooth

Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound Card

Bose Companion 3 , 2.1 Stereo Audio

750 W power supply

2) XPS 720 $1850 shipped and 3 year warranty

Motherboard NVIDIA® nForce 680i SLI

***Intel® Core™2 Q6600 Quad-Core (8MB L2 cache,2.4GHz,1066FSB) OR E8400

nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB

Dell Media Card Reader included in Dell Bluetooth Package

Sound Blaster® X-Fi™ XtremeGamer (D) Sound Card

1KW Power Supply

You should be able to play most games at max resolution except Crysis, where you'll probably have to play at 1280X1024 or even 1024X768 if you want really good framerates. The 8800GT is a great card and the Q6600 shouldn't be bottlenecking your system even at stock speeds unless you try playing CPU-intensive games like FSX or Supreme Commander.BlueBirdTS

ok thanks for the quick reply