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[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"]ummm so same thing could be said about ur Great metroud it been the same since prime one and the third one looks about the same just different settingTrueIoriWhat's so great/ It's actually a trilogy, it has a story that has a conclusion. Not just hte tired story going back and forth between savint the wold from darkness, again again and again. It's combat is much better, and in my opinion the puzzles too. Yet is has no Story and yet to have and voices yeah great uber game You're sad if you think Metroid has no story. You were probably one of the people who downloaded 10 percent of scans or didn't play the game at all. See to understand the story you actually have to tyr to understand it and explore it. yeah make have to scan stuff so i can know what the f is going on yeah that seem like a smart idea. Even if i did read every little scan i bet i wont remember the damn story after i finish the game casue like most people i am a visual person and much rather perfer to SEE the story than to READ it. Las time i check it a GAme not a book Well who could forget the story of Zelda when it's so simple. Start out as an elf dude, then rescue the world. It's a story for everyone which is why little kids who can't use their brain yet don't like Metroid. i am just point out the same flaws u see in zelda there also in metroid. The music it also reuse stuff from the olds ones not all but there are reuse music, dont matter anyway u shake it there no story , and still hear no voice and dont keep ur hope up for the nest one bet it goi ng to have the issues DUDE, who the **** is Samus supposed to talk to when alienated and surrounded by aliens!? ummm i could have sworn there was that light dude in the second one and if that ur reason for not to have voice in agame then i am done wasting my breathe with u The game didn't get a perfect score now did it? But one friken person versus an entire land filled wih people giving out sidequests is a little different.
Windwaker is NOT a better game, hands down.If WindWaker isn't the better game than this game can only be more amazing.
GG, once again, we all lose.
martingm1983
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="insane5674"]Right on, thanks for posting this. See people, this is for all of you that say "You haven't played it so there". These people who reviewed TP played TP. They know the game is great, they know the game should get higher then 8.8. That was for all of you that thinks this 8.8 review is fine. These people don't give a crap about the game. It's go Zelda so we're going to be a fanboy for a second and say it's the best game ever created. COME ON. And yes, the combat isn't deep enough even though about every step of the game is an enemy. The enemies might as well not even be there along with the bosses which ahve some stupid single approach to beating them and then it's all "ZOMG, THAT BOSS TOOK INCREDIBLE BRAIN POWER."ign- "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is, in my opinion, the greatest Zelda game ever created and one of the best launch titles in the history of launch titles" 9.5
1up-" That's a lot to live up to, and surprisingly -- amazingly -- Twilight Princess succeeds admirably, and in every respect" 10
gamespy- "Get over the fact that the Wii's hardware is simply not as powerful as the other next-gen machines and get into the fact that Twilight Princess is one of the best games you'll play this year." 10
gamespot-" Objectively speaking, it's still a little disappointing that the series hasn't evolved much at all with this latest installment" 8.8
nuff said.
Arcanine_88
btw: if you guys want a game that has no chance of flopping AT ALL, look at Metroid Prime 3 ;)
Maybe these people are smarter then you. Maybe these people played the Wii and know the Wii isn't a gimmick. Maybe these people know what they're talking about when it comes to reviewing a game. More say TP is great, now I don't know about you. But I'm going to trust Matt and the others over the Jeff because Jeff for some reason doesn't like one of the best Zelda games (if not the best) ever made. And if you can't come up with something better then "They're just Zelda fanboys" then you need a little help. Hey there is an idea. Trust Matt who gives the game an average of 8.7 but jacks it up to 9.5 for the hell of it. Smarter than me? Listen, when i'm analyzing a review and actually understanding it it makes me more intellectual than you going " WELL THESE PEOPLZ SAID THAT TEH GAME IS TEH BEST EVA, JEFF IS FAT!" like the rest of you fanboys in this thread....
he didint ''jack it up'' to 9.5 he gave a review of all the aspects, but gave the game an overall 9.5 because thats what he thought it deserved
Yeah he jacked it up. I can understand a .2 leway, but ****ing 8 points? come on
look at other ign reviews, they give a strict score on the aspects of the game, then give an overall wtv/10 on how the whole experience was, its always alot more and i like that system better thasn gamespots
Because they give the game what you want and not what the game should've gotten
tjhats retarded, for example, i would give final fantasy X a 10/10 even though the gameplay wasent perfect and there were minor things i didint like, but overall, i think the game deserves nothing less than a perfect score. thers more to a game than technical issues, its about the experience you have
An entire two paragraphs entirely on game flaws? Hey pal i can understand a sentence or two, but two paragraphics of flaws is pretty non perfection.
listen, game creation is an art, not a mathematical equation. If you think that game is all about a technical standpoint thats fine but most ppl dont agree with you.
Um, in case you didn't know the biggest flaw was it's repetative story......... self owned. If it's such an art why can't Nintendo really make this the best Zelda ever and actually change it instead of making it some big world? It is the same thing you played ten years ago, just double the size.
dude u probably havent even played the game. i have. every other revirer apart from jeff sais the sotry was amazing
Na i don't need to play the game to know the story. I've played the past ones....... Whoa you've plaed the whole game :oOh, so you don't play the games yet you put down the games. Right. Maybe you should play them before you say anything about them. Why don't you go pick up a Wii and TP, it might make you feel better. Hey great idea. You too before defending it like it's the Messiah :)
I just saw the score and I was surprised, and then I laughed just thinking about all the nonsense that would be going on in this board; you guys haven't dissapointed.Glad we didn't dissapoint :D
I wasn't dissapointed with the score because I'm still getting the game and I still expect to enjoy it. And instead of just going with the grow up, stop whining, it's just a review, etc. remark that was my first reaction, I'd like to point out a few facts that seems to elude all you red in faced but why can't it get a n-n-n-n-nine, folk.
First, why do you even read these things when all of you have obviously already made up your minds about them, just to feel good about yourselves because you like Zelda and Zelda is awesome? I mean with all the complaining the arguement seems to be that big games like this shouldn't even be reviewed. If it doesn't get a good score than it's bogus. So for all of you who are switiching over to IGN or someone else because they're not biased and site B is objective and reasonable, do you even consider how intellectually bankrupt that statement is? These guys are biased because they don't agree with me, I'm only going to read these other guys who obviously aren't biased because they agree with me. I mean seriously, I truly hope the most complex decision you have to make is buying a video game or not, because I wouldn't trust you with much else.
The second point I'd like to make is that all of you saying, well it scored so and so, on all the other sites, really do have to realize that isn't a fair comparison. Nobody else reviews games like gamespot. there might be an exception, but no other site that I know of just crunches the numbers the way gamespot does. Take IGN for instance, average their numbers and you get 8.7. I know Gamespot weights their categores so even that isn't a totally equal comparison but you get the idea. So if the oh so objective and venerable Matt at IGN was forced to review TP for gamespot, you sure wouldn't be getting your 9.5. I've seen some of you argueing that it's unfair to tank a score of a great game because of something like sound, so what then, the individual scores should be fudged so when you crunch the numbers it conforms to some nice spiffy number you're pre-disposed to? That's less biased and more objective? And that's basically what every other site DOES do. Those other sites might have thought the sound was dissapointing, but ultimately not a factor for the final score. They didn't have to rate the sound on a scale of 1-10 and live with what that does to the final, those aren't the rules of the game for them and they ccan give a game pretty much whatever they want. What does an A or a 96, or whatever else really mean on anyother site, it doesn't mean anything. It's just a value judgement. Yes I know gamespots scores are value judgements too, but they are more discrete. Can you tell me what the difference is between a 95 and a 96 on any other site? If you just throw a number out there you get a lot more wiggle room. When you do it gamespots way, if you're honest, you have a lot less. Gamespots way isn't perfect, because something some people view as trivial (sound) drags down the score of an otherwise spectacular game, but at least they give you a frame of reference. I CAN compare a 9.6 to a 9.7 here and get a feeling what's different about the two games quality; oh this one is pretty, but this one sounds rocking. Maybe the cons outweigh the pros for you there, but hey
If that's the case then stop all the bias nonsense, and Jeff's fatt (great debating technique btw) garbage and deal with the fact you don't like GS's rating system.
ARI0CH_basic
[QUOTE="ShadowBladeX8"]I'm disappointed it didn't even get a 9, but more of the fact that the Wind Waker got a higher score, which is a disgrace for me :(PuffstaJones
i agree with you, but windwaker has an amazing game it deserved a great score
Yeah i liked Windwaker. Last great game i got for my Gamecube( last March)
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="TrueIori"]ummm so same thing could be said about ur Great metroud it been the same since prime one and the third one looks about the same just different settingTrueIoriWhat's so great/ It's actually a trilogy, it has a story that has a conclusion. Not just hte tired story going back and forth between savint the wold from darkness, again again and again. It's combat is much better, and in my opinion the puzzles too. Yet is has no Story and yet to have and voices yeah great uber game You're sad if you think Metroid has no story. You were probably one of the people who downloaded 10 percent of scans or didn't play the game at all. See to understand the story you actually have to tyr to understand it and explore it. yeah make have to scan stuff so i can know what the f is going on yeah that seem like a smart idea. Even if i did read every little scan i bet i wont remember the damn story after i finish the game casue like most people i am a visual person and much rather perfer to SEE the story than to READ it. Las time i check it a GAme not a book Well who could forget the story of Zelda when it's so simple. Start out as an elf dude, then rescue the world. It's a story for everyone which is why little kids who can't use their brain yet don't like Metroid. i am just point out the same flaws u see in zelda there also in metroid. The music it also reuse stuff from the olds ones not all but there are reuse music, dont matter anyway u shake it there no story , and still hear no voice and dont keep ur hope up for the nest one bet it goi ng to have the issues DUDE, who the **** is Samus supposed to talk to when alienated and surrounded by aliens!?
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="PuffstaJones"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="insane5674"]Right on, thanks for posting this. See people, this is for all of you that say "You haven't played it so there". These people who reviewed TP played TP. They know the game is great, they know the game should get higher then 8.8. That was for all of you that thinks this 8.8 review is fine. These people don't give a crap about the game. It's go Zelda so we're going to be a fanboy for a second and say it's the best game ever created. COME ON. And yes, the combat isn't deep enough even though about every step of the game is an enemy. The enemies might as well not even be there along with the bosses which ahve some stupid single approach to beating them and then it's all "ZOMG, THAT BOSS TOOK INCREDIBLE BRAIN POWER."ign- "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is, in my opinion, the greatest Zelda game ever created and one of the best launch titles in the history of launch titles" 9.5
1up-" That's a lot to live up to, and surprisingly -- amazingly -- Twilight Princess succeeds admirably, and in every respect" 10
gamespy- "Get over the fact that the Wii's hardware is simply not as powerful as the other next-gen machines and get into the fact that Twilight Princess is one of the best games you'll play this year." 10
gamespot-" Objectively speaking, it's still a little disappointing that the series hasn't evolved much at all with this latest installment" 8.8
nuff said.
PuffstaJones
btw: if you guys want a game that has no chance of flopping AT ALL, look at Metroid Prime 3 ;)
Maybe these people are smarter then you. Maybe these people played the Wii and know the Wii isn't a gimmick. Maybe these people know what they're talking about when it comes to reviewing a game. More say TP is great, now I don't know about you. But I'm going to trust Matt and the others over the Jeff because Jeff for some reason doesn't like one of the best Zelda games (if not the best) ever made. And if you can't come up with something better then "They're just Zelda fanboys" then you need a little help. Hey there is an idea. Trust Matt who gives the game an average of 8.7 but jacks it up to 9.5 for the hell of it. Smarter than me? Listen, when i'm analyzing a review and actually understanding it it makes me more intellectual than you going " WELL THESE PEOPLZ SAID THAT TEH GAME IS TEH BEST EVA, JEFF IS FAT!" like the rest of you fanboys in this thread....
he didint ''jack it up'' to 9.5 he gave a review of all the aspects, but gave the game an overall 9.5 because thats what he thought it deserved
Yeah he jacked it up. I can understand a .2 leway, but ****ing 8 points? come on
look at other ign reviews, they give a strict score on the aspects of the game, then give an overall wtv/10 on how the whole experience was, its always alot more and i like that system better thasn gamespots
Because they give the game what you want and not what the game should've gotten
tjhats retarded, for example, i would give final fantasy X a 10/10 even though the gameplay wasent perfect and there were minor things i didint like, but overall, i think the game deserves nothing less than a perfect score. thers more to a game than technical issues, its about the experience you have
An entire two paragraphs entirely on game flaws? Hey pal i can understand a sentence or two, but two paragraphics of flaws is pretty non perfection.
listen, game creation is an art, not a mathematical equation. If you think that game is all about a technical standpoint thats fine but most ppl dont agree with you.
Um, in case you didn't know the biggest flaw was it's repetative story......... self owned. If it's such an art why can't Nintendo really make this the best Zelda ever and actually change it instead of making it some big world? It is the same thing you played ten years ago, just double the size.
dude u probably havent even played the game. i have. every other revirer apart from jeff sais the sotry was amazing
Na i don't need to play the game to know the story. I've played the past ones....... Whoa you've plaed the whole game :o
[QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="hellzhitman"][QUOTE="Arcanine_88"][QUOTE="insane5674"]Right on, thanks for posting this. See people, this is for all of you that say "You haven't played it so there". These people who reviewed TP played TP. They know the game is great, they know the game should get higher then 8.8. That was for all of you that thinks this 8.8 review is fine. These people don't give a crap about the game. It's go Zelda so we're going to be a fanboy for a second and say it's the best game ever created. COME ON. And yes, the combat isn't deep enough even though about every step of the game is an enemy. The enemies might as well not even be there along with the bosses which ahve some stupid single approach to beating them and then it's all "ZOMG, THAT BOSS TOOK INCREDIBLE BRAIN POWER."ign- "The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess is, in my opinion, the greatest Zelda game ever created and one of the best launch titles in the history of launch titles" 9.5
1up-" That's a lot to live up to, and surprisingly -- amazingly -- Twilight Princess succeeds admirably, and in every respect" 10
gamespy- "Get over the fact that the Wii's hardware is simply not as powerful as the other next-gen machines and get into the fact that Twilight Princess is one of the best games you'll play this year." 10
gamespot-" Objectively speaking, it's still a little disappointing that the series hasn't evolved much at all with this latest installment" 8.8
nuff said.
Arcanine_88
btw: if you guys want a game that has no chance of flopping AT ALL, look at Metroid Prime 3 ;)
Maybe these people are smarter then you. Maybe these people played the Wii and know the Wii isn't a gimmick. Maybe these people know what they're talking about when it comes to reviewing a game. More say TP is great, now I don't know about you. But I'm going to trust Matt and the others over the Jeff because Jeff for some reason doesn't like one of the best Zelda games (if not the best) ever made. And if you can't come up with something better then "They're just Zelda fanboys" then you need a little help. Hey there is an idea. Trust Matt who gives the game an average of 8.7 but jacks it up to 9.5 for the hell of it. Smarter than me? Listen, when i'm analyzing a review and actually understanding it it makes me more intellectual than you going " WELL THESE PEOPLZ SAID THAT TEH GAME IS TEH BEST EVA, JEFF IS FAT!" like the rest of you fanboys in this thread....Oh it's not only Matt. Do you understand that other sites gave TP a rating above 9? Do you understand that GameSpy gave it a 5/5, 1UP gave it a 10/10? Oh it's not just Matt that loves the game. It other reviewers as well .Your argument would hold a lot more ground if other sites agreed with GS and gave TP a poor rating. And like I said, if all you can come up with is "Zelda fanboy" then you need help. Me I'm posting facts, it's a fact that IGN's review is a 9.5. It's a fact that 1UP gave TP a 10. It's a fact that GameSpy gave it a 5/5. It's a fact that every other site has given TP a 9.0 or higher. Now, that isn't fanboy stuff, that is facts. And if you don't want them then you can't take the truth. Uh they did. Maybe if you read their reviews, you'd see they mentioned the flaws jeff did but kind of shoved them aside like tthey weren't there. 1up dedicated about tow paragraphs about the games "flaws" in a game that got rated perfect......Oh so because they gave the game such a high rating they're now Zelda fanboys? Maybe they understand that there really is no truely perfect game out there. Maybe that's why they could give TP such a high rating. What I find most funny about you hellzhitman is that you'll say that 8 sites that gave TP a high rating is biased and Zelda fanboys. And you say the one that gives it the lowest rating (in this case GameSpot) they aren't biased and know what they're talking about. Are you really that dense? They aren't biased. They gave legit reasoning. My point of being here is defending Jeff's review and showing it was all logic and inevitable. I've read the reviews and i'm just saying Jeff makes an excellent point, k? I hope it's ok that i have an opinion like the rest of the humans who reviewed the game.Me, dense? Right. This is your own words " These people don't give a crap about the game. It's go Zelda so we're going to be a fanboy for a second and say it's the best game ever created." "Trust Matt who gives the game an average of 8.7 but jacks it up to 9.5 for the hell of it. " " Yeah he jacked it up. I can understand a .2 leway, but ****ing 8 points? come on" And now you say they aren't biased? What is up with you? Can't you make up your mind? My point is, Jeff's review is screwed up, because others have said TP is the best Zelda game. And I happen to go to GameSpot, so I would like it if Jeff would make some smart reviews about games that's on a Nintendo system. He hasn't been very good lately. I was talking about Jeff being biased not them :roll:
I'm disappointed it didn't even get a 9, but more of the fact that the Wind Waker got a higher score, which is a disgrace for me :(ShadowBladeX8Well it's all time reliative. If this game came out at the same time as windwaker it would most definately be higher. MUCH higher.
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