[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]If you don't assemble your self you can't use newegg. Then you can go with cyberpower. Where do i begin?ThaT-Masta

This + this and you'll be set for a few years.

And for a future upgrade just add another 570 and you'll be fine for a few more.

If you don't assemble your self you can't use newegg. Then you can go with cyberpower. Where do i begin?evildead6789

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="evildead6789"]

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

evildead6789

The alienware is better for the following reasons

The alienware use the hd 5870 which is an very powerfull card. All cyberpower models use a card from the geforce 4 series which are known for their excessive heat output and power consumption. Not a good option when buying a laptop or buying a desktop for that matter.

The gtx 460 suffers less from this than the other 4 series but isn't as strong as the hd 5870. They do give sli options for this (two gtx 460 for double the power) but i think you will be in a different price range then (at least 300$) above your 2000$. If your willing to spend that much if would go for one of those cyberpower deals. But this is not a brand name, i've never heard of it , i don't know what the lifetime expectancy will be of these systems.

It will be a long time before you need to upgrade the alienware. The clock of the cpu is only 1.7 ghz but this is to save power the thing will boost to 2.93 ghz

The price range is not that different with the current systems. The 'coming soon' systems are somewhat cheaper though but they ship with a gtx 485 only .

The gtx 480 is known for being to noisy and beign too power hungy (it's the worst of all the 4 series). The gtx 485 is some derived mobile version from it , I shouldn't expect any big improvements on this since it's the same chipset.

I can look into some other manufacturers like acer or ibm but idon't know ifthey will gave the graphical power like an hd 5870.

Everything changes though if youwant a 15 inch screen, i only checked the 17 inch versions

this should be sufficent for all gaming

http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=dkcwbn2&c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&model_id=alienware-m17x

I just scooted past the replies, I dont think there are to many laptop fans here I Would garner. Check out http://www.notebookreview.com in the discussion part which is there forums. They have sections for every known laptop brand and its heavily used site. I go there everyday for hours, its very wonderous website hehe. Sounds like alienware might be a bit more power under the hood then what you may think. You said something about wanting something to substitue an councel. Well I would suggest maybee an asus republic of gamers G series laptop, maybee a G73/1500$ or G53/1450$. You might also look at an MSI660r/1550$ or sager. The one I would reccomend with you with full confidence knowing its the best gaming laptop there is right now, which is a 15.6 inch sager np 8150 which can be bought from xoticpc. eycel

[QUOTE="iOverkill"][QUOTE="ThaT-Masta"]

Doesn't sound like you need it for on the go, so I'm going to suggest you build a desktop pc.

Having double the performance at a lesser cost is worth having to carry a computer to a friends house a few times.

You can always get a nice case like the Lanboy air(which has carrying handles) to make it easier..

I have been gaming on laptop since alienware brought its first line out. Alot of what the industry thinks about laptops and gaming has started to shift away from desktops being the only capable machines to play games on. Anyway this thread was to emphasize laptops as hardware capable of gaming. I have a few videos of my new laptop, the specs are listed below. This thread is not to discuss the differences and what makes what better between desktops and laptops, this thread is just for laptop fans that have questions regarding notebooks and gaming and or hardware.

Lenovo Ideapad Y460 • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64 • 4 GB PC3-8500 DDR3 SDRAM 1066MHz • 14.0" HD LED Glare 1366x768 • 500GB 5400 • DVD Recordable (Dual Layer) • ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 1GB • Industry Standard Touchpad • 6 Cell Lithium-Ion

I realize probably every person on this forum section litterly hates laptops. I get so much flack from people who cant stand to even accept laptops can game at all. I have been in many altercations and verbal arguments over the matter. heh, I will say I have owned desktops also. If you want to check out how my laptop games on some new games check out http://www.youtube.com/notebookplayer.

Doesn't sound like you need it for on the go, so I'm going to suggest you build a desktop pc.

ThaT-Masta