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#1 isv666
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Because most people consider the word sport to mean some sort of athletic event that requires physical activity.  So when they're hear the term "esports" they don't really consider it a sport.  Granted, things like golf and automobile racing are considered sports and they aren't exactly brimming with athleticism (but do require skill).  Personally, I don't have any issue with the term and think a lot of people get too bent out of shape over it.  That doesn't mean I can't see why some disagree with the terminology.

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#2 isv666
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Haven't really met many famous people.  Met a few wrestlers and random politicians, nobody too notable.  At work I've met members of In Flames and Shinedown.  Had to get the lead singer of Shinedown some shampoo, condoms and a few other random necessities when you're on the road.

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I was about 5 or so.  I remember going to my friend's house and walking around the corner into their living room.  There on the TV in all it's glory was Super Mario Bros.  I was amazed.  Then I got a chance to try it out and, well, 25 years later here I am.  My parents did have an Atari 2600 that I dabbled with but it didn't "hook" me like the NES did.  I ended up begging and begging for one and my parents got me one for Christmas that year.  

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I wouldn't say they've become too sensitive.  If anything I would say they've become more accepting.  You're always going to run into people who oppose something, whether it's a game, movie, music, whatever.  Like another user mentioned, they always need a boogieman.  

I do think that with the advent of the internet that more and more views are given on any given subject.  It gives everyone a voice as opposed to a small minority, so it may seem like more people oppose certain aspects.

As for the mod in question, I don't know enough about it.  If it's all "LOL kill kids!" then sure, that might be a bit over the top and not very tasteful, but I would never suggest it be removed or banned.  It just isn't my cup of tea, is all.

As for as Quiet's outfit, I have no issue with that, either.  Does it sexualize her?  Perhaps.  But that doesn't bother me.  Much the way that, say, Fabio being on the cover of romance novels for a decade or two, half naked, doesn't bother me.

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The only inury I've ever gotten was from the ol' N64 controllers.  Sometimes when playing some game that required you rotating the analog stick, I'd use my palm and it'd get rubbed a little raw.  Beyond that, I can't think of much else.  Maybe some cramps if I played too long.

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#6 isv666
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Wow, this thread really took off since I last posted in it.  As the debate escalated, I think chrisrooR hit the nail on the head with a lot of views I have.  I've worked with guys from Ghana, Burundi, Tanzania, etc., a whole bunch of refugees.  People who watched their families murdered in front of them, had no clean water or living.  Just horrible all around.  Many of them welcome their opportunities.  But if you want to argue the "mythological job" angle of it... they all had help getting jobs through a recruiting agency dealing with refugees.  And apparently tax breaks are given to employers who hire them (that is what I've been told by countless people, can't assess the honesty of it).

As far as morality goes.  It's entirely subjective.  Sure, most people will agree that certain things are just wrong and evil, but others consider it perfectly normal and acceptable.  Like said, there is no black and white, but only shades of gray (and I'd wager more than 50).

A lot of people in gangs have a horrible environment they've grown up in.  It's easy to say from other perspectives that "They should know better!" or "There's plenty of opportunity!"  Sure, those things are true.  But when you grow up with parents who don't particularly care, a school system that doesn't care, in a city that doesn't care or try to show you that opportunity, you're not left with a whole lot.  Many views are shaped at a relatively young age and when it's pounded in your head day in and day out that gangbanging is the best opportunity and the norm, well, chances are that's what you're going to do.  Not that there aren't exceptions.  There always is.

This isn't even limited just to urban areas.  Head out to the mountains of, say, West Virginia and you'll find a lot of people who turn to illegal activites such as moonshining to make ends meet.  

But as a whole, gang violence and gangs in general need to be curbed.  These people need to be taught there are options, that they can do more with their life than sling dope.  Sadly they are part of society that nobody cares enough about, which just further feeds the problem.  

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Out of games I have played, probably the Katamari games.  Eternal Darkness was kinda trippy at times.  I have a feeling that I've played some much, much weirder games but can't seem to recall them.

This topic reminds me that I have Deadly Premonition and never really got around to playing it.  At least not much.

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Been snagging the games off the "Games with Gold" thing.  So I finished up Assassin's Creed 2 and been messing around with Dead Rising 2 and Crackdown.  Also snagged that last Humble Bundle so been messing around with The Sims 3 and Dead Space.  World of Warcraft is always on my playlist.  And too broke to afford anything new and full price (looking at you, SR4).

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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"][QUOTE="isv666"]

I have no issues with this.  The article makes no mention of if these are current or reformed gang members.  They're striving for authenticity and hopefully achieved it.  Could they have used a regular voice actor?  Probably so, but it may not have been as well done.  Granted, there are a few actors who have been down the gang path, such as the aforementioned Danny Trejo.  If anything, the only real problem stemming from using a non-actor is that "regular people" often sound fake when doing dialogue.  It's one thing to say something in the heat of the moment with agression, entirely different when you're trying to convey it into a microphone.  Actors do a better job of getting into that "zone" I guess you would call it.

People join gangs for a variety of different reasons.  Often times it is due to growing up in a horrible environment and feeling your choices are limited in life.  That Rockstar hired some people like this isn't a bad thing.  In fact, it could potentially turn a life or two around.  I feel that's better than the constant shaming and stifling of opportunities because someone has made a few bad decisions.

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"Real gang members" can only mean they are currently gang members, otherwise they would say "former gang members"

Also, WHO is this game made for anyway? Because most of the people who buy it wouldn't know the difference between real gang-speak and something creatively crafted and well-delivered. I mean, if the only way you can recreate "authentic" gang talk is by hiring criminals, then aren't the criminals going to be the only ones who can tell such a difference? If Rockstar is making the game for gang members, then I could see trying to make such a huge thrust for authenticity, but when your audience largely consists of a bunch of basement dwellers who live in basements, whose "culture" exposure amounts to a few Jay-Z records, what's the fvcking point?

I'd say that is because Rockstar, on average, aims to make a top-notch product and make it as authentic as possible (within the realm of context).  The game is made for people of all walks of life, many of which who may have actually dealt with real gang members in some capacity.  Whether it be cops or lawyers or whatever.  I've dealt with a few just doing my crummy job of cleaning floors*, guys who have moved on beyond that way of life, but still "talk the talk."  Not saying I could sit down and listen to fake dialogue versus real dialogue and be able to tell the difference, just that some people may.

*The floor cleaning profession seems to draw in a lot of people who have a lot of bad baggage and criminal records.

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#10 isv666
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[QUOTE="isv666"]

I have no issues with this.  The article makes no mention of if these are current or reformed gang members.  They're striving for authenticity and hopefully achieved it.  Could they have used a regular voice actor?  Probably so, but it may not have been as well done.  Granted, there are a few actors who have been down the gang path, such as the aforementioned Danny Trejo.  If anything, the only real problem stemming from using a non-actor is that "regular people" often sound fake when doing dialogue.  It's one thing to say something in the heat of the moment with agression, entirely different when you're trying to convey it into a microphone.  Actors do a better job of getting into that "zone" I guess you would call it.

People join gangs for a variety of different reasons.  Often times it is due to growing up in a horrible environment and feeling your choices are limited in life.  That Rockstar hired some people like this isn't a bad thing.  In fact, it could potentially turn a life or two around.  I feel that's better than the constant shaming and stifling of opportunities because someone has made a few bad decisions.

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"Real gang members" can only mean they are currently gang members, otherwise they would say "former gang members"

It doesn't sound as risque if they said former.  And "real gang members" doesn't necessarily equate to them currently being a gang member.  While not gang-related, I've never met a member of the military who refers to themselves as "former (insert branch here)." Not saying that's the same case here, but just using it as an example that there are a lot of people in various professions (legal or otherwise) who may still associate themselves with it while not being actively engaged in it.