Just to float the idea, are there any current or former military members interested in putting together a joint email to McShea to respectfully ask him not to try to speak on the behalf of the military community like this?

@RedLegZeff @kingoau3000 I think by now it's apparent that the military folks on gamespot have taken much more offense to Tom than to what he was talking about. The military community is humble, but one of the buttons we have (which is admittedly easy to push) is people trying to "speak for us". I think what Tom was doing falls into that.

@RedLegZeff And all those different interesting experiences, fall under the umbrella of fun in the context of a videogame. It is a very malleable word, and I have a feeling some people are operating off of a very narrow definition.

@Dieofnv @WTA2k5 We should get all the serving and former members on gamespot together to sign a joint email to McShea and ask him to back down about this.

@kingoau3000 @Otacon6669 That's right. As I will continue to repeat for it's relevance to the discussion, I am a former soldier myself, so I share your experience with the boring stuff, and that's probably why I can't understand the big deal being made of all this. A videogame does no better job of simulating warfare than a game of paintball, so the separation of entertainment and reality is perfectly clear. And its not offensive.

@WTA2k5 And there was no mention by McShea about how "uninspired" Warfighter is. He said it was disrespectful to soldiers. I am not offended, nor are the other serving members on here. So there is no issue.

@WTA2k5 Yes, they do have to be fun. As I said further down:

Also, I think it needs to be pointed out here that games DO need to be fun. Fear, suspense, exhilaration, sadness, all these things that games can make us feel, they make us feel because in the context and safety of a game, ***they are fun to feel and experience***. When you played Red Orchestra 2 and were terrified for your virtual life, you cannot say you weren't having fun with that experience. Fun is the goal of games, and to claim otherwise is nauseatingly pretentious.

Why can't you make a statement, and still be entertaining? Thats what MoH is trying to do. The argument that games have to "grow up" and "stop being fun" is just beyond comprehension to me.

@Otacon6669 The game is respectful in it's presentation (or thats their intent, anyway. I'm assuming based off of MoH 2010.) There is nothing wrong with depicting war in a game. People who have issues with it need to stop taking things so seriously.

@Sheepdog1744 Right on. I too was far more bothered my McShea himself than anything he was harping on.

@forrest23 Well exactly, and that's the whole thing. People, soldiers included, are not all so thin-skinned as to feel that a game depicting them is some kind of insult. What really gets me is someone so vehemently claiming offense on someone else's behalf, where none exists. It's questionable, to say the least.