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#1 jshaas
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

I'm confused what the atheist agenda you're talking about is. Equality regardless of religion, gender, race and sexuality? Doesn't sound too bad.

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They caught us.. Obama is a covert militant Atheist who "hid" in a church as a devout follower for decades.. So one day due to a VP fluff up (another one) he would be forced on the spot to support gay marriage.. Man we have been planning this for 50 years!

I thought he was a mooslim???
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#2 jshaas
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[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="GrayF0X786"]:lol: goodbye first commandment.

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Nope. God is part of the trinity... Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. God's word, the Bible.

Says Pual who goes against the first commandment.

Which bible? King james? international, catholic bible? new "revised" edition :lol: ???

King James to be exact. I also use the New Living Translation, or the New King Jame Version. I'm sure your book has never been "updated." How does the Trinity go against the first commandment? God is the trinity, three in one. What don't you understand?
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#3 jshaas
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[QUOTE="slowpokebro"]No one actually knows if he was even a real person... his death could have been made up.ZumaJones07

Try THIS and get back to me. He was a real person, and died a real death.

and rose from a real grave and went into real hell then into real heaven.

I'm not sure that He went to hell. I know some believe that He went to hell, and then was resurrected.
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#4 jshaas
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[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="SPBoss"] Also, where in the bible does it specifically state to worship jesus and that he is the actual son of god? Its taken out of context, the bible says we are all gods children. In that context that makes everyone the son of god. IMHO i've read both old and new testament and I firmly believe Jesus was a prophet and not the son of god.GrayF0X786

First, we worship the trinity...

:lol: goodbye first commandment.

Nope. God is part of the trinity... Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Jesus did die, there's historical proof of that fact... as pointed out in my link earlier. I know you practice Islam... which differs a lot from God's word, the Bible.
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No one actually knows if he was even a real person... his death could have been made up.slowpokebro

Try THIS and get back to me. He was a real person, and died a real death.

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#6 jshaas
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I'd say overall, more liberal... unfortunately. This has been going on for decades though, so I'm not going to blame Obama. The real problem is that nobody seems to really care about what's happening to America. Huge changes in how our government opperates are need badly. We basically have to go back to the drawing board (Constitution) and start over. Greed has ruined politics, which is ruining the country. The first two things I suggest would be setting term limits for all politicians, and replacing the tax code with something like the Fair Tax. No more loopholes, kickbacks, etc. I would give each elected position a two term limit, and that's it. This would do so much for how politicians work in regards to lobbyists. I would also suggest that it be made illegal for lobbyists to wine and dine politicians.
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#7 jshaas
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[QUOTE="RealzAtheist"]

[QUOTE="jshaas"] Understand that God doesn't work in our finite time table. He is infinite. Jesus knew that His death would bring salvation to generations that have yet to come. His Spirit is what guides us and draws us to Him today.SPBoss

I'm taking it you believe in objective morality then?

Also, where in the bible does it specifically state to worship jesus and that he is the actual son of god? Its taken out of context, the bible says we are all gods children. In that context that makes everyone the son of god. IMHO i've read both old and new testament and I firmly believe Jesus was a prophet and not the son of god.

First, we worship the trinity... not just Jesus separately. But they are three and one together, yet existing separately as well. He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God. ~ Daniel 3:25 When the scriptures are capitalized like the ending here, it's referring to Jesus. Also see Matthew 4... when the devil is temping Jesus, he calls him the Son of God because he knows exactly who Jesus is. And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. ~ Matthew 16:16 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. ~ Matthew 27:54 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; ~ Mark 1:1
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#8 jshaas
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[QUOTE="harashawn"]The idea is, if you follow Christ's teachings, and love your neighbour, you will enter the Kingdom of God. Now, what the Kingdom of God is, is impossible to say with certainty.Omni-Slash
I always thought if you followed Christ's teachings you'd end up crucified by a gaggle of Romans........that's the point I got out of it anyway...

You would if you lived in that time. I'm assuming you're referring to how His disciples were killed... though only a few were actually crucified.
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#9 jshaas
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[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="SPBoss"]Sorry but how could Jesus die for our sins? He could have only died for the sins of the people of his time and the past. You cant die for sins that haven't even been commited yet lolRealzAtheist

Understand that God doesn't work in our finite time table. He is infinite. Jesus knew that His death would bring salvation to generations that have yet to come. His Spirit is what guides us and draws us to Him today.

I'm taking it you believe in objective morality then?

Sure do. There can only be one truth. Truths don't change. You and I may think we know what the truth really is, but in most cases we'll be wrong. What's right is right, what's wrong is wrong.
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#10 jshaas
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The idea is, if you follow Christ's teachings, and love your neighbour, you will enter the Kingdom of God. Now, what the Kingdom of God is, is impossible to say with certainty.harashawn
Well the earth is described as His footstool. So, one can say that we are in part of His Kingdom now. But, to get to where He dwells... we need to go to Heaven. There's only one way to do that.