is the soundtrack in tron evolution the same as the soundtrack from the movie tron legacy ? if yes then that one, daft punk rules the world.

if not, then GTA: Vice City, with san andreas comming pretty damn close!

tutt3r, a word of advice. E:TW is hands down the worst TW game ever, its so bad its allmost an offence to the other TW games, if you like it, you will LOVE the others. Just saying ;)

Just finished my first short campaign so i might be helpful.

Given that i've played every TW game ever made i might be called a fanboy and be a bit biased, nonetheless i found this TW game to be the best since rome, maybe even just as good. Unlike the other TW games however, Shogun 2 is more down to earth and more accesible for new players, amazingly enough without dumbing down anything. Reason for this is most likely that the campaign now takes place i 1 country opposite to 1 continent, yes the troops or more the same but considering how hard each are to get you never feel like your army is the same as your opponents.
It should also be said that the advisor is crucial to new players, it might be a bit boring listening to the same 10 things before they give you a new usefull hint but its well worth it, at least in the first playthrough. (But watch out, after hearing the very much exagerated japanese accent the advisor hasfor 4 hours straight, i was tempted to throw my speakers through my window again)

My personal recommendation would be to try out the demo, both you and your uncle, and if you are still even remotely interested then buy the game. The demo gives a good show of what you can expect, while still leaving all the meat on the bone ready for when you purchase the full game.


This is all IMO btw, and do take in mind this was my first campaign. I might be missing some important issues, but if i am, they havent been important to me yet.

Thx for your replies Mythpro1, they are sincerely appreciated :-)

My plan now is to take my chosen to 40, and if need be i'll learn to tank on an off-base. Or if this game catches my attention enough i might choose a different (c)lass if i wanna go a bit more serious.

Thx for the help guys, helped a lot :-)

Mythpro1: i was hoping for a post like yours since it boosts my longing to make my chosen a badass, even though its not the best possible. with that said im still wondering how people react when you join pug's or guilds ?? do you know how much harder it is for a chosen to join compared to a"dps-only"??
don't wanna reach 40 and then be left out of everything due to nothing else but my (c)lass choice.

Myopic: Have you played any other mmo's as a tank ?? im thinking about making a Plan-B where i could change into tanking if needed, but not if it isn't somehow improved compared to other mmo's, so if you know something about this, any info would be appreciated :)

well in that case, what im looking for isnt a heavy armoured dps, but something similar to the fury/arms warrior/retridin in wow and conqueror in aoc.
not so much because i dislike the other (c)lasses, but since they're playstyl(e) suits mine perfectly.

is my chosen capable of this ?? i mean will it be worse compared to the other (c)lasses (dps wise) than warriors were in wow ?? or conqueror in aoc??




omg why is the word (s)tyle also not allowed ??Are (c)lass and (s)tyle some kind of evil slang somewhere ???

You misunderstood my last post or maybe i wasn't clear enough, i agree that having heavy armoured melee powerhouses with high dps and a(s)hitload of health is impossible to balance into any sort of game, nor can i see why anyone would want that, but a melee heavy armoured dps is still possible without making it unbalanced, wow, aoc, lotro and so on have proven this.

During my time playing online games all the heavy armoured (c)lasses allways either had the option of choosing aspecific talent tree that would turn you down the dps road, or there was a ****made up entirely for this.
And considering how the Black Orc, Chosen and Black Guard all have the talent tree option of going dps, i just find it strange (bordering on crazy) that you can't actually use it for anything else than faster solo lvl'ing which is the slowest and least fun way of gaming mmo's.

Now maybe im just playing the wrong game but how come that WAR is the onlymmorpg (that i know off) that doesn't have any melee heavy armoured dps (c)lasses???

Balancing is still very much possible, just decrease some other abilitys and it will work, just as it worked in wow, aoc and lotro.

But just to be clear, would you say a chosen playing as dps would have the same chances of getting into pug's and stuff as fx.a marauder dps ?? or just close to??



*also, i have a very limited attention span, so i never reach top lvl more than once, playing the same game over again is impossible for me, no matter how different the way you play it is. this is why rerolling might kill the game for me.

I have to say that allthough i can see your perspective and agree with some parts, in total i very much disagree.
For example in wow, i played a retridin and a arms/fury warrior, there you have dps + heavy armour in a perfect mix, the dps might not be as good as mages or rogue's but then they could contribute in other ways (buffs mostly) and therefore weren't overpowered or underpowered, they were just right.
And this is what im looking for in this game, i don't care if my aoe dps isnt as good as the rdps or that i won't peak every dps meter in every instance/SC, what i want is to play to lvl 40 as a dps chosen and then when getting there,not get ruled out of party's and warbands because my "(c)lass setupis stupid" and then having to resort to tanking(which i HATE) or rerolling to a different (c)lass, which i fear may ruin this game for me.

So, i recently bought this game and after opening up the game i had no doubt, i wanted to be a big ass evil heavy armour wearing mofo dealing out 2h damage in plentiful.
But now that i've reached lvl 24 more and more people are telling me that playing a chosen as a dps char is allmost impossible and downright stupid since i wont be able to kick any kind of ass in pvp or pve when i reach lvl 40.
So what i did what: i imediatly searched the internet for forums who had discussions about this and they all came to the same conclusions "chosen will never be as good a dps char as (c)lasses like marauder, witch elf and so on" But at the same time people were flaming mythic for not making this (c)lass good enough as a dps, and that they were all hoping this would change in later patches.
But since the only discussions i could find about this topic was from 2008 i was hoping that mythic had changed this by now so i won't have to reroll ??

So does anyone know if this has been changed or can anyone tell me that those people were all wrong and that dps'ing as a chosen IS possible ??


Im only interested in playing melee dps (c)lass WITH heavy armour, and from what i read neither the black orcs, or the black guards are that much better at dps'ing. Can it really be they made a game with no heavy armour wearing dps (c)lass' ??


And before people tell me to play wow, I refuse to go back to wow! not even when cataclysm comes out. Wow (c)lassic might make me think about it, but so would an angel standing before me also make me think about that maybe there is a god? but seriously,neither will never happen.

I hope for some quick and helpfull replies, thanks in advance :-)


And btw why the **** is the word (c)lass not allowed to write ?? wth ?? is it because the editors don't have any or what ?? what could possibly be the reason for this ?? its a normal ****ing word ?!

I can recommend playing COD-WAW (preferably the missions where you're attacking berlin) with this song playing in the background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFS4zYWxzNA

Quite possiblethe greatest gaming experience of my life, it even beats Henry Tomaccino's fate in mafia 2.