I don't "hate" it but Far Cry 2 isn't worthy of the Far Cry name. ;)CellAnimation

I never played the first far cry but when I played far cry 2 I was a bit disappointed, from what I'd heard about the original far cry I had expected something a bit more special.

I'd definitely recommend playing sands of time if not the whole trilogy, they were all good games, imo sands of time was the best in the trilogy, the other two seemed to have lost something that was in the first.

I've tried a few times to get my bf to play sands of time but he refuses because he says the graphics look to dated for him to enjoy it, which I think is a terrible reason not to play it.

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games nowadays simply have a greater chance to be more fun. maybe older games that made their gameplay elements extremely well could still be fun, but they dont have the same opportunities. enjoying hd graphics is fun. listening to fully orchestrated scores is fun. exploring 3d worlds is fun. caring about expressive and voice acted characters is fun. taking on the mountains of enemies now possible to put on screen is fun. its not that these games stop being fun. its that these games have much harder competition nowadays. LoG-Sacrament

I recently replayed all my monkey island games, comparing the first game in the series to the last, obviously the first game had much worse graphics all thew music was in midi format and there was no voice acting yet mokey island 1 was so much better than the fifth game. Graphics, music and voice acting mean nothing if the story and gameplay aren't up to scratch.

Also looking at it another way because the game had worse graphics and no voice acting, you used you imagination a lot more to fill in the blanks, I remember when I played curse of monkey island and I heard guybrush speak it kind of ruined it a bit for me cos it wasn't how I'd imagined it. It's liek the difference between books and films, films show you how someone else imagined it, books let you do it for yourself. Not that I'm saying we should all go back to playing text based adventures or anything lol

I hope this isn't coming across that I just like older games and I think newer games aren't fun to play. Like I'm currently playing fallout 3 but sometimes I'm not in the mood to play it and I'll have more fun if I just go online and play something like bejewelled or one of those flash crazy golf games or something lol

I understand your saying that because of technology improvements newer games are more likely to be fun than older games, because as well as having good gameplay they also have good sound, voice acting, graphics as well as the gameplay. I just want to point out that I never said that older games were more likely to be fun than newer games, in my original post I just said that a game could still be fun even if it lacked good graphics, sound and story and used older games such as tetris and pacman as an example.

As for the text based adventures I said

"Not that I'm saying we should all go back to playing text based adventures or anything lol"

by that I meant that we shouldn't play text based adventures because they aren't like books, I only played a few and I never liked any of them.

games nowadays simply have a greater chance to be more fun. maybe older games that made their gameplay elements extremely well could still be fun, but they dont have the same opportunities. enjoying hd graphics is fun. listening to fully orchestrated scores is fun. exploring 3d worlds is fun. caring about expressive and voice acted characters is fun. taking on the mountains of enemies now possible to put on screen is fun. its not that these games stop being fun. its that these games have much harder competition nowadays. LoG-Sacrament

I recently replayed all my monkey island games, comparing the first game in the series to the last, obviously the first game had much worse graphics all thew music was in midi format and there was no voice acting yet mokey island 1 was so much better than the fifth game. Graphics, music and voice acting mean nothing if the story and gameplay aren't up to scratch.

Also looking at it another way because the game had worse graphics and no voice acting, you used you imagination a lot more to fill in the blanks, I remember when I played curse of monkey island and I heard guybrush speak it kind of ruined it a bit for me cos it wasn't how I'd imagined it. It's liek the difference between books and films, films show you how someone else imagined it, books let you do it for yourself. Not that I'm saying we should all go back to playing text based adventures or anything lol

I hope this isn't coming across that I just like older games and I think newer games aren't fun to play. Like I'm currently playing fallout 3 but sometimes I'm not in the mood to play it and I'll have more fun if I just go online and play something like bejewelled or one of those flash crazy golf games or something lol

On one of the missions I had to lead some people to the brotherhood of steel base, on the way there we got attacked by some ghouls. I'm in the middle of shooting these ghouls when one of the idiots in the groups decides to run in front of my gun, he didn't get killed but they all hated me after that and it wasn't even my fault.

Well when we got to the base I was supposed to lead them to someone there but they wouldn't follow me so I just left them there, went off did some other stuff and when I came back we were all friends again :)

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People are just too complex to nail it down to just one or two things, even to say it takes a combination of every aspect like gameplay, story, sound, graphics all added together I don't think would be true, otherwise how would you explain older games like tetris nad pac-man which were really fun and addictive and I could still happily play for hours today.

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So does that mean that a more simple game will suddenly stop being fun to play as soon as something more complex turns up? No, it's still fun but just for different reasons.

It's just like ASK_Story said there is no answer, at least for the majority of people.

People are just too complex to nail it down to just one or two things, even to say it takes a combination of every aspect like gameplay, story, sound, graphics all added together I don't think would be true, otherwise how would you explain older games like tetris nad pac-man which were really fun and addictive and I could still happily play for hours today.

Plus the fact that people are moody creatures, certain games become more appealing depending on your mood, also people change over time what you consider fun now may seem baffling to you when you look back in 10 years time, although saying that the opposite can also happen you see it happening a lot with music, how sometimes older people still listening to the same stuff they did when they were younger and automatically dismissing everything new as rubbish without taking the time to form a proper opinion.