God was created by man, made up to get people to follow and take up certain ideals, also to help people fall in line with the rest of society.dipper145No, that is RELIGION. GOD created everything. a Supreme, all knowing being.
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[QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="kirk4ever"]i also have heard the ideo that evrything came from the number 1 -0 or x...but what /who wrote those numbers :oxxDustmanxx
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]If existence didn't exist at all, we wouldn't be here, even if we were an imagination as there wouldn't be anything existing to imagine us up.It's also possible that MAN created the universe and God, from imagination. In fact, man's existence may be a figment of hsi OWN imagination... or something else's imagination.
Consider this-
Existence doesn't exist at all. Everything we are and we are experiencing right now is just a massive figment of imagination, that's broken up into millions of independent thoughts and beliefs.
Consider that everything that is happening right now, that has already happened and that will happen - really Won't EVER happen and never has happened. Everything is just a dream that is slowly building itself up logically using bits and pieces of raw "materials" from our own imaginations.
This dream we're in is attempting to justify everything, little by little. It's growing. God right now only exists as an idea in this dream, but eventually our imaginations will create a God that we THINK is real and the God will somehow convice us that he is real. It's impossible to PROVE there is or isn't a God right now, because our imaginations have yet to reacha boundary of what it can come up with.But in actuality, this God is just an evolved figment of our imagination. The same with the universe as a whole - the universe seemd limitless simply because imagination has no limits.
The universe won't end unless our imagination runs out of ideas to keep the dream going.
Sort of like the Matrix world - the Matrix creates a fake world for people to THINK they are existing in - while in reality something more sinister is going on in the REAL world. But the problem, is the Matrix is limited by technology, while the human mind has no limitaiton - eventually the mind will doubt the MAtrix being a living world because imagination will eventually make the Matrix's ruleset obsolete. THen people "wake up" and have to use EMP's to destroy the machines lol SAVE US NEO!!!!
Ok - back to my theory...
Since everything is just a imaginanry dream world right now, it's makes me wonder what if one day we WAKE UP... What will the REAL WORLD be like? What will the person you THINK you are really be? What you think you are might just be part of this big dream. You might be really ugly or really pretty in the REAL world. WHo knows?
Ok - back to my Taco Burger.
Ezgam3r
He explained it all wrong.Its not that nothing exists,its just that what we are in now is simply a fabrication of conciousness.
What does this have anything to do with God? He exists whether we do or not.If we dont exist,how do you know that god exists,stop jumping to conclusions.
God is a theory to describe where everything around us derived from, much like Evolution. Saying reality is not real is just a whole different subject. Let us say, now, that it is completely possible for god to exist in OUR PERCEPTION of reality I don't like how you first tried to disprove time, and now reality.[QUOTE="kirk4ever"]i also have heard the ideo that evrything came from the number 1 -0 or x...but what /who wrote those numbers :oxxDustmanxx
[QUOTE="Netherscourge"]If existence didn't exist at all, we wouldn't be here, even if we were an imagination as there wouldn't be anything existing to imagine us up.It's also possible that MAN created the universe and God, from imagination. In fact, man's existence may be a figment of hsi OWN imagination... or something else's imagination.
Consider this-
Existence doesn't exist at all. Everything we are and we are experiencing right now is just a massive figment of imagination, that's broken up into millions of independent thoughts and beliefs.
Consider that everything that is happening right now, that has already happened and that will happen - really Won't EVER happen and never has happened. Everything is just a dream that is slowly building itself up logically using bits and pieces of raw "materials" from our own imaginations.
This dream we're in is attempting to justify everything, little by little. It's growing. God right now only exists as an idea in this dream, but eventually our imaginations will create a God that we THINK is real and the God will somehow convice us that he is real. It's impossible to PROVE there is or isn't a God right now, because our imaginations have yet to reacha boundary of what it can come up with.But in actuality, this God is just an evolved figment of our imagination. The same with the universe as a whole - the universe seemd limitless simply because imagination has no limits.
The universe won't end unless our imagination runs out of ideas to keep the dream going.
Sort of like the Matrix world - the Matrix creates a fake world for people to THINK they are existing in - while in reality something more sinister is going on in the REAL world. But the problem, is the Matrix is limited by technology, while the human mind has no limitaiton - eventually the mind will doubt the MAtrix being a living world because imagination will eventually make the Matrix's ruleset obsolete. THen people "wake up" and have to use EMP's to destroy the machines lol SAVE US NEO!!!!
Ok - back to my theory...
Since everything is just a imaginanry dream world right now, it's makes me wonder what if one day we WAKE UP... What will the REAL WORLD be like? What will the person you THINK you are really be? What you think you are might just be part of this big dream. You might be really ugly or really pretty in the REAL world. WHo knows?
Ok - back to my Taco Burger.
Ezgam3r
He explained it all wrong.Its not that nothing exists,its just that what we are in now is simply a fabrication of conciousness.
What does this have anything to do with God? He exists whether we do or not.[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"]Because God doesn't exist with in time. Comprehending this is like an ant trying to learn quantaum theory. And I'm not talking about any religous god, I think he's a being we can't possibly comprehend. lbde
How do you know that god exists outside of time?
The question is does time really exist?Or is it merely a fabrication of mans imagination,what if everything else is?
Yes time exists. Its the duration between two periods. Without time, whats stopping things from happening all at once?And If God is an eternal creator, he created time, and why would an eternal creator be at the whim of what they created? God shouldn't have any restrictions on what he/she/it can do.
Time does not exist.Time is only a word that is used by man to keep everything under schedule,time is merely an illusion.Like free will,or what we believe to be reality.
Then agaim i could just be talking out of my ass.
If time is an illusion I would be able to go anywhere in any point in time, which is impossible for us mortals.You don't understand the concept,we are always at one constant.For example yesterday didn't pass,we are still at that exact same point,inly difference is events have taken place within that constant,resulting in the illusion of time.Ive thought of this extensively,I'm pretty sure thats how it works,well at-least thats my theory.
Then everything that happen yesterday is still there however. Also time-if time is an illusion Aren't you contradicting the theory of "who created god?"I dont know if there is such a thing as god.No i am not contradicting that theory,see you still dont understand the concept,you dont need time for things to happen.My theory is that we exist(if this is truly reality)within one constant,events only occur within this constant.For example:the sun comes up and goes down,night and day go by,yet time does not move forward because it does not exist.The sun setting merely an event ocurring within this constant,producing the illusion of time.
I understand what you're talking about. But, how do you explain death? You die eventually. You will die. What prohibits you from living is time. It is theoretically impossible for you to live infinitely because of time because there is a 100% chance you will not live forever.No,thats just you getting old,not because of time,because the human body decays slowly within this ifinite constant.
And the human body decaying is a direct result of N amount of time passing. Even if your body did not decay, the chances are at 100% that you would be involved in an accident of some sort and die, or a body malfunction after all those years.bump, awaiting rebuttal
[QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"]Because God doesn't exist with in time. Comprehending this is like an ant trying to learn quantaum theory. And I'm not talking about any religous god, I think he's a being we can't possibly comprehend. xxDustmanxx
How do you know that god exists outside of time?
The question is does time really exist?Or is it merely a fabrication of mans imagination,what if everything else is?
Yes time exists. Its the duration between two periods. Without time, whats stopping things from happening all at once?And If God is an eternal creator, he created time, and why would an eternal creator be at the whim of what they created? God shouldn't have any restrictions on what he/she/it can do.
Time does not exist.Time is only a word that is used by man to keep everything under schedule,time is merely an illusion.Like free will,or what we believe to be reality.
Then agaim i could just be talking out of my ass.
If time is an illusion I would be able to go anywhere in any point in time, which is impossible for us mortals.You don't understand the concept,we are always at one constant.For example yesterday didn't pass,we are still at that exact same point,inly difference is events have taken place within that constant,resulting in the illusion of time.Ive thought of this extensively,I'm pretty sure thats how it works,well at-least thats my theory.
Then everything that happen yesterday is still there however. Also time-if time is an illusion Aren't you contradicting the theory of "who created god?"I dont know if there is such a thing as god.No i am not contradicting that theory,see you still dont understand the concept,you dont need time for things to happen.My theory is that we exist(if this is truly reality)within one constant,events only occur within this constant.For example:the sun comes up and goes down,night and day go by,yet time does not move forward because it does not exist.The sun setting merely an event ocurring within this constant,producing the illusion of time.
I understand what you're talking about. But, how do you explain death? You die eventually. You will die. What prohibits you from living is time. It is theoretically impossible for you to live infinitely because of time because there is a 100% chance you will not live forever.No,thats just you getting old,not because of time,because the human body decays slowly within this ifinite constant.
And the human body decaying is a direct result of N amount of time passing. Even if your body did not decay, the chances are at 100% that you would be involved in an accident of some sort and die, or a body malfunction after all those years.[QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"]Because God doesn't exist with in time. Comprehending this is like an ant trying to learn quantaum theory. And I'm not talking about any religous god, I think he's a being we can't possibly comprehend. xxDustmanxx
How do you know that god exists outside of time?
The question is does time really exist?Or is it merely a fabrication of mans imagination,what if everything else is?
Yes time exists. Its the duration between two periods. Without time, whats stopping things from happening all at once?And If God is an eternal creator, he created time, and why would an eternal creator be at the whim of what they created? God shouldn't have any restrictions on what he/she/it can do.
Time does not exist.Time is only a word that is used by man to keep everything under schedule,time is merely an illusion.Like free will,or what we believe to be reality.
Then agaim i could just be talking out of my ass.
If time is an illusion I would be able to go anywhere in any point in time, which is impossible for us mortals.You don't understand the concept,we are always at one constant.For example yesterday didn't pass,we are still at that exact same point,inly difference is events have taken place within that constant,resulting in the illusion of time.Ive thought of this extensively,I'm pretty sure thats how it works,well at-least thats my theory.
Then everything that happen yesterday is still there however. Also time-if time is an illusion Aren't you contradicting the theory of "who created god?"I dont know if there is such a thing as god.No i am not contradicting that theory,see you still dont understand the concept,you dont need time for things to happen.My theory is that we exist(if this is truly reality)within one constant,events only occur within this constant.For example:the sun comes up and goes down,night and day go by,yet time does not move forward because it does not exist.The sun setting merely an event ocurring within this constant,producing the illusion of time.
I understand what you're talking about. But, how do you explain death? You die eventually. You will die. What prohibits you from living is time. It is theoretically impossible for you to live infinitely because of time because there is a 100% chance you will not live forever.[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="kirk4ever"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="soldier-dark"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="Decessus"]Creation doesn't imply imperfection. Perhaps God was created perfectly.xxDustmanxx
Then who created Him? :P Who created the being that created him? And then who created them? This thread points out how existence makes no sense, because there would need to be an endless chain of creation.
The ultimate Paradox
Or God is eternal. Without a beginning. Thus solving the infinite creators argument./Paradox
this might be blasphemy..but god may even not know how he became to be.....what if there is god of god and god and god "LOOP"..arghh my head dammnit
What if God never came to be at all and was just "there"?What if god is simply a product of mans imagination?
Think of god as just a being, unlike anything you've ever seen. No morals. No principles, No emotions. Man simply added those things to him and created a "heaven" and "hell" and gave him earth like qualities.[QUOTE="lbde"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"]Because God doesn't exist with in time. Comprehending this is like an ant trying to learn quantaum theory. And I'm not talking about any religous god, I think he's a being we can't possibly comprehend. xxDustmanxx
How do you know that god exists outside of time?
The question is does time really exist?Or is it merely a fabrication of mans imagination,what if everything else is?
Yes time exists. Its the duration between two periods. Without time, whats stopping things from happening all at once?And If God is an eternal creator, he created time, and why would an eternal creator be at the whim of what they created? God shouldn't have any restrictions on what he/she/it can do.
Time does not exist.Time is only a word that is used by man to keep everything under schedule,time is merely an illusion.Like free will,or what we believe to be reality.
Then agaim i could just be talking out of my ass.
If time is an illusion I would be able to go anywhere in any point in time, which is impossible for us mortals.You don't understand the concept,we are always at one constant.For example yesterday didn't pass,we are still at that exact same point,inly difference is events have taken place within that constant,resulting in the illusion of time.Ive thought of this extensively,I'm pretty sure thats how it works,well at-least thats my theory.
Then everything that happen yesterday is still there however. Also time-if time is an illusion Aren't you contradicting the theory of "who created god?"[QUOTE="Ezgam3r"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="lbde"]Because God doesn't exist with in time. Comprehending this is like an ant trying to learn quantaum theory. And I'm not talking about any religous god, I think he's a being we can't possibly comprehend. xxDustmanxx
How do you know that god exists outside of time?
The question is does time really exist?Or is it merely a fabrication of mans imagination,what if everything else is?
Yes time exists. Its the duration between two periods. Without time, whats stopping things from happening all at once?And If God is an eternal creator, he created time, and why would an eternal creator be at the whim of what they created? God shouldn't have any restrictions on what he/she/it can do.
Time does not exist.Time is only a word that is used by man to keep everything under schedule,time is merely an illusion.Like free will,or what we believe to be reality.
Then agaim i could just be talking out of my ass.
If time is an illusion I would be able to go anywhere in any point in time, which is impossible for us mortals.
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