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#1 mack10
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[QUOTE="mack10"]The majority of people probably do feel the way I do but probably for different reasons such as religion as you mentioned. I may have already opened a can of worms here but I'll stop here. Again I have nothing against gay people. I'm just opposed to the idea of it being "natural" (as in we're born gay and perhaps its hereditary) and more with the idea of it being psychological. Hell we've made porn mainstream. If a guy in today's society doesn't watch porn and masterbate a few times a week something is f'ed up with him clearly (again religion aside). Porn isn't "normal" and our urge to watch it isn't natural. Sure we have urges because everyone hits puberty and suddenly thinks "sex" but that's not a gateway to porn yet porn is "normal" or natural if you will in today's society. Again I'm not attacking anyone, I actually have gay friends but that's just my opinion on the matter and people disregard the power of psychology and how impressionable young teens and boys and girls can very much be swayed, the same way people get disturbed and join vampire cults and cut themselves or the same way someone becomes a pedophile or the same way people can be driven to commit murder...you aren't born a murderer or a pedophile or a freak but you're impressionable and you become those things and they just become who you are. Again just my opinion on the matter, don't mean to offend anyone. As for the kid singing anti gay stuff, I'm not "for" that, I simply don't care it doesn't change anything because gay people will go on being gay but I was just saying my piece.Teenaged

Why is porn not normal? And why is the urge to watch it not natural?

When certain things fall under the umbrella of "psychology" doesnt mean they are comparable. If I one day feel like killing someone, it definitely isnt the same as the time I felt like masturbating to naked men (optionally while they have sex with each other). It definitely felt different and I'm sure it takes processes of different kind. You are a killer from the moment you do the act. But you are a homosexual regardless of if you have had sex with the same sex or even have never watched porn or masturbated.

Your comparisons degraded so fast to the most uncomparable of things that I wouldnt be surprised if you are just subtly trolling.

Well first of all I'm sorry my arguments aren't to your high standards but I'm not trolling. I can sit here all day telling you why porn isn't normal but you wont agree with me because to you and your beliefs it is normal. To me, porn is an industry and filthy rich one at that and that's the only reason it exists and everything glamorizes porn (Girls Gone Wild, Playboy, its everywhere on television censored or otherwise, its accessible and people who shouldn't be seeing it see it, such as children or teenagers perhaps who are a little more curious). But I read a comment on Youtube a while back that said it best: back during the Roman's time society found it very normal to go out on the weekends and place bets on which gladiator can kill the other one first. Gladiators fighting in the arenas was very normal and I'm sure if you had, during that time, protested those acts people would laugh at you because your comparisons are thin and you're clearly trolling. When society is convinced something is normal it becomes "normal". Porn isn't normal, its just an industry that's milked to death because it makes a LOT of money. Its not a necessity, we don't need it to live, its a form of entertainment and it becomes an addiction to most people.

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#2 mack10
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I never said I was a 10 lol. You are assuming because someone is good looking they are shallow and not desirable which is just not true.

No I'm not. I'm saying there are good looking people who are undesirable for other flaws in them. I'm saying that choosing on looks alone is shallow. I'm not saying I wouldn't date an attractive girl because she's attractive. I'm saying her being attractive wouldn't be the defining factor for me. And you being a 10 is irrelevant I was making a point.

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[QUOTE="mack10"]I'm sure it has. You be gay and enjoy it and I wont bother you but I don't agree its "very common" its just a thing we glamorized and with time it became more and more common. Its still very common to see homophobia because many people are completely turned off by the idea of gays. If it was "natural" there wouldn't be so much controversy about it. tenaka2

There is controversy due to religious dogma and old fashioned social reasons.

Some contries a fully accepting of it while others are bitterly opposed (mainly islamic states).

It homosexuality was by is very nature unatural then wouldn't the majority of people feel the same way you do?

The majority of people probably do feel the way I do but probably for different reasons such as religion as you mentioned. I may have already opened a can of worms here but I'll stop here. Again I have nothing against gay people. I'm just opposed to the idea of it being "natural" (as in we're born gay and perhaps its hereditary) and more with the idea of it being psychological. Hell we've made porn mainstream. If a guy in today's society doesn't watch porn and masterbate a few times a week something is f'ed up with him clearly (again religion aside). Porn isn't "normal" and our urge to watch it isn't natural. Sure we have urges because everyone hits puberty and suddenly thinks "sex" but that's not a gateway to porn yet porn is "normal" or natural if you will in today's society. Again I'm not attacking anyone, I actually have gay friends but that's just my opinion on the matter and people disregard the power of psychology and how impressionable young teens and boys and girls can very much be swayed, the same way people get disturbed and join vampire cults and cut themselves or the same way someone becomes a pedophile or the same way people can be driven to commit murder...you aren't born a murderer or a pedophile or a freak but you're impressionable and you become those things and they just become who you are. Again just my opinion on the matter, don't mean to offend anyone. As for the kid singing anti gay stuff, I'm not "for" that, I simply don't care it doesn't change anything because gay people will go on being gay but I was just saying my piece.
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Peronally, I choose the regular looking chicks even though I could score 10's any day of the week.

You just completely complemented my post after calling it nonsense. It all comes down to taste. Just like you think you're a "10" I'm assuming since you think you can land "10s" yet you still go for "regular looking chicks", there are girls who would go for "regular looking guys" because while abs are as attractive to a girl as the hourglass figure or big boobs or whatever are attractive to a guy, they aren't things you stick around for if that's all there is. I dunno man but I'm just attracted to girls for their personalities over everything else as cliche as that sounds because I've been attracted to "10s" before and found them very repulsive for whatever reason and those attractions just shot out the door and vise versa with "regular looking girls". A hot body gives you attention but its not the only way, its the most shallow way though.
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#5 mack10
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I'm sorry OP but if you're over 20 and you're on gamespot asking women for advice for turning around your love life that we can only assume is lacking at the moment, you need to worry less about abs and worry more about taking a few risks here and there. Women are attracted to all sorts of men and the ones who are superficial to a point where they choose a man for his abs over all other things are usually beach barbies who spend 3 hours in front of a mirror every morning because their self esteem is too low without an inch thick layer of foundation and half a ton of mascara on their face. Don't know, maybe you're just as shallow and thats the kind of woman that does it for you but I prefer a real girl with a little more intellect and a little less glamour. They can be pretty hot and sexy too without all the fake. So look for something else and be confident in yourself and I'm sure you'll find Mrs. Sonofsmeagle with or without the abs (most women will tell you they're just bonus anyway).

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I'm sure it has. You be gay and enjoy it and I wont bother you but I don't agree its "very common" its just a thing we glamorized and with time it became more and more common. Its still very common to see homophobia because many people are completely turned off by the idea of gays. If it was "natural" there wouldn't be so much controversy about it.
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#7 mack10
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[QUOTE="lowkey254"]

What's the problem? He (read: his family) has a right to their opinion just as the glbt community has a right to their lifestyle.

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That's not his opinion, bro. That is being brainwashed by very dangerous people.

It can be argued that gay people are the same. I'm not homophobic, I'm of the mentality of "to each his own" but I don't for a minute believe that people are born gay considering the reproductive systems and how they work. And my opinion is not religion driven since I'm not religious but its simply just my opinion. And don't get me started on powerful institutions and brainwashing (which I agree with you on that point).
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Saw this on the news and I wish I can say I know where he's coming from but his frustration seems real and tbh I'd trust a man with that much passion over every other air head sitting in that room not voicing their opinion on the matter.
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yeah. i dont like how people treat conspiracy theorists with such hostilty. its not like their trying to hurt someone. in fact they are trying the oppositelloveLamp

Charlie Sheen of all people put it best. When it comes to any conspiracy everyone always yells foul! pretty retarded if you ask me since not everything is a "conspiracy" (or I guess everything is in a sense). (disclaimer: my personal opinion on the matter...doesn't matter; i'm just making a point) Charlie Sheen said that the 9/11 story brought up a lot of question and the commission report didn't really answer much but rather made things very convoluted and messy by omitting certain facts and blah blah blah. He said that as crazy as it sounds to blame 9/11 on an "inside" i.e. the U.S. government, its even crazier to believe that a bunch of Arabs with box cutters managed to hijack 4 planes simultaneously and maneuver them so elegantly and hit 75% of their targets. That's a "conspiracy" if I've ever heard one (paraphrasing his quote).

Not everything you hear is a conspiracy. Is OK to question things and in fact its important that you question things especially when they're always half baked. There was also one story on the web that I read long ago that said: if I told you there was a group of men undertaking a top secret project and that anyone who was in on this project cannot opt out and chances are if someone did they would be killed. That these people were developing a weapon that can kill thousands if not millions of people in the click of a button. Right now I can see you scoffing and shaking your head at me and calling me crazy, calling me a conspiracy theorist if you will. But what If I told you this was already done and hiroshima can attest to that, because its people still suffer to this day from this "conspiracy". A conspiracy is anything you make of it.

Chances are half the time you call someone a conspiracy theorist its because you're so obsessed with your beliefs that you just don't want to believe anything else. Chances are that half the time you call someone a conspiracy theorist, had you done you homework and started connecting some dots and realized how black and white things are on this Earth that you'd be a little skeptical too of a lot of things going on. I'm a little heavy on this stuff. I don't like talking Illuminati or skull and bones because I think that's retarded (true or not, who cares?) but I do like talking logic and business and government and politics and real life stuff going on in your world today. These tend to paint an ugly picture most of the time. Just be open minded a little. You don't have to believe everything but don't deny it either until you've actually looked into it (and your daddy telling you its wrong doesn't count as looking into it, because my daddy and I agree and disagree on many subjects for example such as religion for one...your parents aren't always right no matter how opinionated they are).