My prep high school was founded by catholic nuns. It now has a national 'Ivy League high school' reputation-people want to educate their kids there. It was not this way when I went there in theearly 80's.I now know no less than6 homosexuals were my classmates then. This was before homosexuality became a political issue, and they didn't openly admit to homosexuality. As they believed it their own personal business, not some government faction's. the reason I went there was to avoid the bulls**t I'd seen my older brothers endure in the public schools at the time. Mom and dad being public school teachers, wanted me to think about going to a private school where the BS was able to be disciplined out, unlike the places they were teaching.

This catholic foundation school also had 3 muslims as my classmates, and even 2 jewish students. Due to their religious varieties, they were not required to attend religious school functions with the rest of us- althougha fewdid anyway, curious about the preceedings. I remember talking to these other religion members about their religions during lunch.It was pretty cool to learn first hand. Neither side got converted to the other-we weren't into that. Nobody got discriminated against in any record public or school wise. The student body was made up of already intelligent students as a requirement to entrance, afterall. I was never forced into learning intolerance by any of the administration there. Good folks ran the place, still do. I was bright enough not to buy intolerance even when it was sold- part of that was due to my religion. (I followed Christ in the bible, not thefew bigotsin the school).

I have no bigotry (that I know of-although some here will prove I do) against homosexuals, muslims or jews as many posts here think I should have learned -by being a private school preppy. Incidentally, my father actually worked a second job to pay my tuition there-so I am not a rich snob, either. I have since fallen from the constant practice of my religion. But this is my issue-never the school's or anyone else's. I support private, religious, and prepatory schools to this date. To have only someone else's choice is also to not have my own choice. Let the individual human decide a belief for themself, never let the majority force descions upon that individual where a belief is concerned.

There are some (now elderly) Jewish folks who didn't want the tatooed number that remains on their arm, either.

The man made it to 'Pope'. This involves learning much wisdom and earning respect from his peers, who follow a christian dogma. People can change. (The Scarlet Letter -classic american novel from Nathaniel Hawthorne).

If these high level (ex Hitler Youth) people honestly believe in their upbringing as kids, despite the World War showing them the mistake, then they had better be real careful about putting their young facist learnings back into practice! There are survivors of those facist policies still wearing number tatoos on their arms who won't fall for it again. Evil people usually acquire enough rope to hang themselves.

Judge a life by what was consistently done as it was lived, not by singular instances only.

Thats a very weird story. I would kill the child. But the question is are you killing the child to put it out of it's misery, or yours. Maqda7

I disagree with "I would kill the child", but you are allowed to say that. However, your second part has more truth in it for me.

"..are you killing the child to put it out of it's misery, or yours". -Exactly.

The idea is not to be "We think she will be in a miserable life, so that life should end" Since when is the opinion of a person that is NOT her, supposed to overule her personal feelings about herself? NOT OUR CALL. I do not think for anyone else here, why is a deciscion being made to think for her? Suicide would be her personal business. Our killing her, with personal opinion as the guide, is never a choice we are allowed to have.

10 years later watch how technology will grow

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Maybe this girl being here is the actual way that technology WILL advance, too.

Unfortunately, it would have to be red tape legal (time constrainted)- organ donor in good facial health, or cadaver who recently died with no decomposition of tissues,etc. the other problem is possible rejection of new transplanted tissue.

I'll say one thing for those parents- they are some tough people with a lot of courage and compassion!

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Another item about this- The girls were knowingly enrolled in a school that did not support their sexual preference. Why go where they weren't wanted, blow mom and dad's tuition $$,and their own education, by risking getting caught? I really can't feel sorry for them being foolhardy.

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They got caught busting the rules so they wouldn't have to be forced into schooling there? Okay, that i can see if mom and dad had forced them into it. Unfortunately the article didn't bother to tell us that part-only what they wanted us to see. (Use the media, but don't trust it)

Incidentally, I CHOSE to go to a private / religious high school. (A Co-Ed one, at that!) My parents recommended it to me-and they are both public school teachers with a religious faith (not bible thumpers about it however). They hated the way they saw the public school system falling apart around them back in the 1970's, and dad got a second job for my tuition when I made the choice. I won a scholarship to a non-private (or religious) college after being taught in that high school.

My wife and I have a 5 year old daughter. We wanted her for a long time. Luckily-in a universe where nothing is certain-she was given to us healthy. We had discussions before our first child was born (like parents SHOULD) about how we would handle the baby if we knew it might be born less than healthy. The discussions applied to each future child we'd have also. That first child is our 17 year old son. He is Autistic, but luckily again, he is very high functioning, he designs video games and buildings, and may get a scholarship for them one day. (yes-they are that good).

If our daughter had no face at birth, and we knew about it, we would still have her. It isn't about what everyone else thinks, and it isn't about us judging wether her life was a useless one. It is no single human's right to judge the value of another human's existence. Hitler anyone?) It is our responsibility to make sure the life we knowingly created has a chance to become a life. We had sex. We made another human-which is the ultimate function of sex. We accepted the responsibility / consequences of having sex. We WANTED the babies we made, however they would turn out. WeAre Grown Ups.

If you make such a child, then YOU go ahead and kill it -get your money back -so to speak. If you don't have the guts to face trials in life, you won't have much of a life anyway. It is not this dad's job to decide the life he creates is useless or not. It IS all dad's job to guarentee the life they create has a chance at living. Our only choice is weather we should create any life in the first place. After the sex, it is too late to change our minds.

Wear condoms if you want sex but don't want kids. Don't go WATB if the condom breaks, though. You're playing with life itself.

Whups! :oops: I thought you were talking about VIDEO games! lol, I was going to say "Make sure everyone else is asleep before I turn on the game- so I won't keep getting bugged" but this also applies to watching the Steelers, etc.

"Her cheatin' heart..will turn on you..." (old country tune).

Dude- your gettin your pickle tickled, don't bother with anything farther!

I recall "American Pie"- Jimbo wakes up after flute girl raped him; "She USED me!.....Cool". Think about it, anyway. In this case I'm pretty sure your rapist isn't going to marry you, tho. Also- invest in some of those long latex balloon thingy's- she ain't in it for motherhood. (You hope...:?)

Are you one of those naughty-in-mod-eyes types who got banned or otherwise banished? ;) Good to have your return- anything I post in goes belly up shortly thereafter, due to my boringness! At least we'll have a professional doing the job, going out in a blaze of remembered glory now!