@Gaming-Planet: Sorry - but I totally disagree. Do you have any idea how much it costs to develop, spec, build, test, sell and promote a new console and a range of games wide enough that you start to earn some money out of the venture? Nor do I - but let's face it, it will be in the billions. Do you really think MS and Sony would go to that massive expense, and then just 5 years after releasing the consoles in question stop supporting them? Everyone knows the consoles themselves are sold at a loss - and the profits come from games, online-presence, merchandise etc, which is why the consoles' life spans are generally pretty long, so they can maximise that profit. MS and PS both made a lot of money out of the 360 and the PS3, because they sold them for so many years. Why would they cut short the lifespan this time?

I was a little disappointed to see, pretty quickly, that the PS4 was a tiny bit more powerful that the One. I knew this before I got my One. I only really got the One because I really like Halo and Forza, and was always impressed with the stability, and capabilities of xbox LIVE! The One and PS4 are both are much less powerful than pc's. So what? You think that wasn't the case when the 360 came out? Or the PS2? It would have been the same then. Graphics / fps...blah, blah, blah....people like consoles as they are easy to just pick up and start playing. It takes about 40 seconds from when you switch it on to start playing a game. Joypads come with it (no awkward software etc), and I won't even mention the constant upgrades to hard- and software. People enjoy that - that's fine - I wouldn't slag anybody off for pc-gaming (I'm not one of those idiots who do), or having a PS4, but I think you're entirely wrong when you say you think they will stop selling / supporting the One and the PS4 just a couple of years from now. The last gen lasted for ~10 years - I really can't see any reason this one would last any less.

@ribstaylor1: "Consoles are about to be overtaken by the mobile alternative in terms of performance, so I'd give them at best a 5 yr total life span." Come on...seriously. You must know that's rubbish. You can't possible compare mobile and console gaming. They are 2 entirely different things. I don't mobile game...can't be bothered with the crappy little screen and hopeless touchscreens, but i'm a big console gamer. And as for the "at best 5 year life span". That's also rubbish. The PS4 and the One came out in Nov '13...1 1/2 yrs ago. you really think they will both be over within the next 3 1/2 years??

You may have no interest in console gaming - that's absolutely fine - I don't have much interest in pc gaming, but please don't start slinging out a load of complete rubbish.

@busterfriendly:

yes - he should, you're right. I opted for the One and took the plunge. The 360 gives me backwards-compatibility and runs any game other than GTAV (which I now have on the One anyway) without any problems.

@groowagon: Yeah - I'm sure you're right - sure it's a lot better than it used to be. Haha - Walmart!! I'm happy enough with my One although obviously I realise it's slightly less powerful than the PS4 and much less powerful than top-spec'd pc's...I'm happy with that. I have my pc in 1 spare room, on a pc desk with kb/m and a 21" monitor. In another spare room I have my One under a 40" tv infront of a Xrocker gaming chair which is next to a rig with a driving seat and steering wheel, all permanently set up. I'm happy to ignore the fact that any game would look, and run, much better if I threw some £££'s at my pc, but I prefer the ease of gaming on the One.

I'll always be a tiny bit jealous when I see, eg, TW3 running at 14xx by whatever at 120fps, and will probably be more jealous when NMS comes out on the PS4, but that's ok - I'm at peace with myself.

@Lulu_Lulu: Haha - yeah - my comment sounds like that doesn't it? No - not the way the guy talks - just the whole feeling of the game. It's a personal thing, don't get me wrong - but I love 2 types of motorsport, Touring Cars and WRC. I LOVED Colin McRae DiRT - a fantastic racer..but by DiRT2 and DiRT3 it had become more encompassing - there were buggies and trucks and stuff like that. They were fun for a few hours, but I played the first game, which was pure rallying, for hundreds of hours.

Just got a bit too American for me - all a bit "Doood - that's awwwwesoommee" and all that. Not my bag, etc.

Still waiting for a rally game to arrive for my One - obv I'm not including fh2! Would certainly consider DiRT (4?) if it came out and there were no WRC games on the horizon (forgive the pun), but prefer pure rallying, ie, WRC.

@Byshop: Yeah - nice one...Driver SF for my money was one of the most underrated games on the 360 - had a HUGE amount of fun on that game...

But - to the OP - there's no shooting in Driver; SF. By all means buy it - I can guarantee you won't be disappointed - but don't expect any shooting in it.

@darda_brooks:

I had a problem which only affected GTAV on my 360. Every other game I had worked perfectly. I would play GTAV for about 20 minutes then it would hang and just completely freeze. The only option was to switch off the xbox at the plug and turn it on again. Then I would get maybe another 15 or 20 minutes before it happened again. It's a heat thing. I sucked all the dust out of the 360 and put it in a different place, etc. I approached Rockstar who advised the usual (clear the cache, try the disc in a different 360, etc).

Then I fixed it. You know those freezer block things, like this...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Packs-Freezer-Blocks-250g-Blue/dp/B004LB38QM/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1428404988&sr=8-4&keywords=freezer+block

...I just got 2 of these and placed them (on a cloth to soak up any condensation) on the 360 (with the 360 lying flat, not standing upright). After that, I was able to play for hours at a time. Never had the problem again (although I didn't do this anymore as I have a One now).

It's hardly practical, but it's cheap and definitely worked for me.

@nicecall: I think it's extremely debatable whether console "gaming" is better or worse than pc "gaming". Of course pc's have the capability (already in this new gen's lifespan) to produce much better graphics, far more fps, etc. That's not in question.

But to me, gaming is much more than that - it's about buying a game you KNOW will work as soon as the dvd drive slides shut, and that you WON'T have to fiddle around with settings or d/l new drivers, check minimum specs, etc, for almost every game you buy. I d/l'd ARMA3 from Steam, having checked I surpassed the minimum specs - and met the recommended specs on 2 of the 5 points - and it ran like sh1t...got about 12fps. It was completely unplayable.

I'm not an idiot - only idiots would put up console resolutions or fps against top pcs, but there are millions of combinations of mobo, CPU, GPU, RAM, OS, monitor, etc - and I don't believe you can say that "pc gaming is better than console gaming". In my opinion it's actually the other way around.

pc's definitely have a much, much wider, huge range of great, and cheaper games (ARMA3 for eg), and if you have the time, money and patience, they will all look better than on a One/PS4, but consoles are much easier to play on / work with, and, to me, more fun because of this.

but I'm not flaming - whatever you play, just enjoy it and respect people for what they play.

Cheers.

@hrt_rulz01: Being a fan of WRC i'd love to see a new WRC, especially now I've got a One and no rally game to play on it. My 360 WRC3 is on ebay as we speak. Not a new DiRT - they all got a bit too "hey doooooood - s'up bro??" for me. All a bit unnecessary.

@lucasbarbo4: RAGE on old gen was a great shooter...FPS with a great story to it. there were various buggies you needed to use to get from place to place, and the MP was just a pure car-shoot-em-up thing. didn't care for it much myself but it may help you. Didn't care for the car-based MP that is - the SP campaign was superb.

Also, Borderlands has a lot of driving in it - and is a fantastic FPS / adventure game.