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#1 NotAFanboy
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No. Microsoft blew their money on crap 3rd party exclusives for the first 2 years and expected to sell 300 million units by now.

They had nothing planned for the remainder of this generation and it's too late right now to build a strong list of exclusives as they never planned for the possibility of only selling 15 million units after 3 years.

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#2 NotAFanboy
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@ronvalencia said:
@techhog89 said:
@BassMan said:

@ronvalencia: Why even make a thread with this bullshit? This is shameful.

Because he's a moron who thinks that he's knowledgeable because he knows how to post links and pictures. If someone implies otherwise, he gets angry. He challenged me to fight.

I debunked your assertion Wii U being 160 stream processor. It's you who started to get personal.

You are completely insane if you think the Xbone 1.5 is at 10 TF. You just discredited yourself by posting this bullcrap.

The Xbone 1.5 will be weaker than the base PS4 model because Microsoft is not as smart as Cerny. Get it through your thick skull.

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#3 NotAFanboy
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8 hours until lemming meltdown. =)

So sad that lemmings only have garbage immature games to play while cows have the greatest, emotional, intelligent and mature games to play.

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#4 NotAFanboy
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LOL at the delusional lemmings here hoping for the impossible. How precious and adorable! LOL...

Now go back to your herd at misterxmedia.com.

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#5 NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
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Still doesn't mean that they'll go third-party. They'll just look for another business venture any maybe keep software limited to smartphones.

Also, you're the reason business owners hire accountants. Your $2.5 billion annual loss estimate was hilarious.

Nintendo doesn't know anything except gaming. If both their handheld and consoles are netting them tons of losses, they will go third party.

What else are they going to do? At least with mario on the Xbox and PlayStation, they have the name brand to get higher software sales than ever. Branching out to a new industry is very risky.

You're right. They've been making video games for nearly 130 years, after all.

Yeah, why doesn't Nintendo just bring back playing cards again. I'm sure that'll bring in billions of dollars in revenue like gaming consoles. LOL...

So, when do you predict Nintendo will go third-party? 2018?

2019 -2021.

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@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
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They've said multiple times that they'll never do that.

You really think a company still generating revenue from selling hardware will say they will go third party openly? They may not say anything about third party out in the open, but you can bet your sweet juicy ass that Nintendo execs are contemplating it behind closed doors. I thought you were a business major.

See, here's the thing. You may have your fancy business BA from Harvard of Wharton, but I actually own my own import/export, customs brokerage + actuarial firm netting $7 million per year. And all I have is a math, econ double major degree from a top 15 university.

You need common sense to succeed in business, not degrees or education.

Still doesn't mean that they'll go third-party. They'll just look for another business venture any maybe keep software limited to smartphones.

Also, you're the reason business owners hire accountants. Your $2.5 billion annual loss estimate was hilarious.

Nintendo doesn't know anything except gaming. If both their handheld and consoles are netting them tons of losses, they will go third party.

What else are they going to do? At least with mario on the Xbox and PlayStation, they have the name brand to get higher software sales than ever. Branching out to a new industry is very risky.

You're right. They've been making video games for nearly 130 years, after all.

Yeah, why doesn't Nintendo just bring back playing cards again. I'm sure that'll bring in billions of dollars in revenue like gaming consoles. LOL...

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#7  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:
@techhog89 said:
@notafanboy said:

They'll go third party.

They've said multiple times that they'll never do that.

You really think a company still generating revenue from selling hardware will say they will go third party openly? They may not say anything about third party out in the open, but you can bet your sweet juicy ass that Nintendo execs are contemplating it behind closed doors. I thought you were a business major.

See, here's the thing. You may have your fancy business BA from Harvard of Wharton, but I actually own my own import/export, customs brokerage + actuarial firm netting $7 million per year. And all I have is a math, econ double major degree from a top 15 university.

You need common sense to succeed in business, not degrees or education.

Still doesn't mean that they'll go third-party. They'll just look for another business venture any maybe keep software limited to smartphones.

Also, you're the reason business owners hire accountants. Your $2.5 billion annual loss estimate was hilarious.

Nintendo doesn't know anything except gaming. If both their handheld and consoles are netting them tons of losses, they will go third party.

What else are they going to do? At least with mario on the Xbox and PlayStation, they have the name brand to get higher software sales than ever. Branching out to a new industry is very risky.

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#8  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@spike6958 said:

@notafanboy: Well Nintendo hasn't ever had to sell buildings to keep from going in the Red. If Nintendo is in trouble with around $10 Billion in the bank, Sony must be out on the streets begging for spare change.

Because Nintendo had at least 1 successful hardware for the past few generations.

The gameboy, gameboy color, gameboy advanced, NDS, Wii, and 3DS.

However, for the upcoming years, Nintendo is looking to have both their next handheld and next console flop.

Just that failing combo alone can generate billions in losses every year. $10 billion is nothing if you have no successful product.

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#9  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@techhog89 said:
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Weaker than the Xbone.

Slightly stronger if Nintendo got lucky with deals.

Haha, okay. And how much to match PS4? Also, you feel that Nintendo won't try to do anything to stay alive and will simply declare bankruptcy in 2021?

They'll go third party.

They've said multiple times that they'll never do that.

You really think a company still generating revenue from selling hardware will say they will go third party openly? They may not say anything about third party out in the open, but you can bet your sweet juicy ass that Nintendo execs are contemplating it behind closed doors. I thought you were a business major.

See, here's the thing. You may have your fancy business BA from Harvard or Wharton or whatever, but I actually own my own import/export, customs brokerage + actuarial firm netting $7 million per year. And all I have is a math, econ double major degree from a top 15 university.

You need common sense to succeed in business, not degrees or education.

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#10  Edited By NotAFanboy
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@ronvalencia said:
@notafanboy said:
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No loss on hardware does not mean overall profitability. It only means that each unit's selling rate is higher than its assembly + packing rate.

Every company has a fixed operating cost (Employee salary, rent, utility bills, R&D, etc). For a company like Nintendo, they use billions of dollars each year to maintain their business. Only selling 1 unit for a $100 profit does not mean the entire company overall will be profitable.

Yeah, I'm a business major, I know. Assuming that they'll be in the red with NX for sure based on nothing, however, is... Well, it's something that you would do. We'll just see how that pans out. I know that you're just a character, so I'm not really up for putting effort into this.

Nintendo took a loss per unit for the Wii U despite its weaksauce specs.

Why? Because Nintendo does not have the economies of scale SONY has. Nintendo has to pay out of their ass to get specs half as decent as what SONY gets.

With Nintendo obviously not confident about the NX, they are probably placing a lot less orders from suppliers than they have for the Wii U, meaning suppliers can squeeze Nintendo pretty hard. Despite this huge disadvantage, Nintendo won't be taking a loss on the NX, meaning the NX will be weaksauce just like the Wii U.

So no, I'm not basing its upcoming failure on nothing.

For X86 PC business, economies of scale is spread across multiple OEM vendors.

Multiple vendors bring the average manufacturing price down, but it does not mean the supplier has to charge the same amount for every vendor.

A vendor who is a bigger seller will not tolerate getting the same rate as a lower seller. Furthermore, the average selling rate for the supplier is skewed by vendors with bigger scale (SONY), so the actual selling rate to lower scale clients like Nintendo will be much higher than the average.

Whatever Nintendo is getting, AMD will give SONY something 2x as better for half the price.