@toast_burner: As a non american i see them as disturbance of peace to be honest. There were so many instances in which BLM has only caused anger and political unrest. They are not on the level of Antifa which we in Germany almost offically cassify as terrorists but BlM also does not really help. The only thing they are causing is anger and many of their so called are racist assholes imo. Esspecially the ones in Toronto.

Also they might as well should all themselves only black lives matter since they regulate white people on protests, in live, public places etc. i have the feeling they are more advocating Separate spaces than any other organisation these days.

I get that point however. When you are getting so pissed about when someone is mentioning that everyones lifes should matter than I can see a problem with your ideology. Instead I would say of course they do but we are focusing on black lives. If you want to focus on everyone do so. Instead they are getting attacked. And no its not only nazis who are saying this stuff.

Alot of people are saying all lives should matter. Same with protest marches. When BLM actually goes opely out and is sying white people need to walk behind us, or dont shout etc its openly racist imo. Walk together in unison. Fight togther not separate.

When BLM also has "leaders" who are openly racist and see the black race as superior. As example Leader in Toronoto. You can very easily get the impression. When the voices of BLM talk about how awful white people are or when they block highways and even hurting many black people with such actions or people callng for the dead of cops you can clearly see them as harmful.

The problem is that BLM has leaders or is associate with leaders who do a really good job to stigmatized their movement.

I think it is a bad and dated wording. Just like Femininsm. The main concern will be Black lives and BLM seems like they are ignoring everything else. So yes you can argue that only black lives matter. Also accusing the all lives matter people on racism is not helping their case either imo.

As for this protest. I think its stupid but I also think they should be able to march. On Gaf or now Resetera people always tried to set Gemany as a great example and how we do not allow hate speech. While it is true that swastikas in public are against the law. Right wing or even Nazi groups still can march here an also getting protected by a huge police force. Just let them march if they start shit police would stop it and a few hours later its over anyway. Much much less headaches.

Stop saying it was sexual assault while we have NO prove of that. At most what we do know its sexual harrassment. Nothing more and nothing less. And the fact that he did immediately stop after she said no (at least that we know) and they even talked about this you can not even call him a predator.

That said: The revenge porn thing back than is not acceptable but back then GAF did not even care that much which makes this here such a hypocrisy....

yeah better alternative

No one should excuse his dickish behaviour or the revengeporn shit he did. We are only asking to not accuse him of something we have no evidence on he did. There is a huge difference between him being an absolute asshole and someone who has comitted sexual assault.

@Willy105: It should not matter if its worth or not. It should matter that they can talk so everybody can build an opinion. You never have to protect opinions almost everyone agrees with. You have to protect the ones which we do not agree with..

As long they do not openly encourage of killing or threaten groups in any l way you should have the right to speak. Even If I think its absolutely stupid. Example: I think modern Feminism has become a very even dangerous cult like ideology. Still I believe they should be able to speak.

Something like this and yes I know its not directly from Voltaire but somone who was very close to him and wrote a book.

PS: The most dangerous right now who actually approve of violence and silencing are ANTFIA and as I said before every action results in a reaction. And I think the events at Berkley and CO resulted in the events of Charlotsville. Because there are always absolute Nutjobs who do not run away but rather fight.

@LJS9502_basic: IT all depends on the realtionship. As I said before in court you could at most get a sexual harassment out of it and even that would questionable since both seemed to be drunk. I am fine with calling it sexual harrassment but please do not use words like rape or sexual assault when there is NO evidencie about it.

@FireEmblem_Man@N30F3N1X thank you. Since English is not my native language it is diffcult to state my case. The Ben Sharpio cae is a pretty great description. When a University has to pay 500k $ for security reasons so they could hold their speech then its a huge problem.

I strongly disagree here. First of all the idea of safe spaces were there before Trump he was not in any form the iniciator or reason for this insanity. Secondly There should be no safe spaces in such institutions when you are talking about opinions. Yes there should be actual safe spaces for violence, threats etc. But not for thoughts especially not in Universities. And even If you do not like some speeches how about ignoring them? If a Le Penn holds a speech at an University and it needs to be canceled because it was too dangerous for her than I think something terrible is going on. There were speeches canceled about rape in which rape victims should speak up. And I am sorry to say this but if it goes so far that people demand to remove classic literature because its sexist or racist and people feel not safe because of it then I just can not support your so called safe spaces of thoughts and opinions.

In Germany we even let Nazis demonstrate because as long they do nothing against our laws they have the right to do so. They have to be protected against Antifa of course but they still can walk and demonstrate. Also its the best way to hold these groups pretty small since people see how stupid they are.

PS: Safe spaces of thought and opinions are not challenging beliefs they are opressing beliefs.

PPS: Exactly this insanity on Universities these days is helping the alt right in a very big way.