@MistressMinako: In the end Tyler got hit with everything he has cultivated with this community and honestly it is difficult to feel sorry for him. Always had to roll my eyes when people seriously believed that gamergate was responsible for Trumps election.

The real uncertainty is what will happen now and how some sites will change with people on the search for a new place. Many seem to went to Giantbomb and we can only hope that moderation is pretty strict with them there because what they did on neogaf will hopefully not fly at other places.

Honestly this season seems pretty weak to me. The only thing I watch is the 3rd season of Shokugeki no Soma and Black clover which people tell me gets really good. Beside the never ending One Piece and DB Super there is not much to get excited about. Inuyashiki is kind of interesting since its pretty rare to see a Terminator Grandpa but otherwise I can not wait for this season to end.

Also in Winter 2018 -one of my favorite animes from the past comes back with a 3rd season. Grappler Baki. And the Prison Arc in there is just awesome^^

Also its quite interesting what kind of "ideologies" these peole often followed. I wonder how many more will get exposed.

I already said they did not doxx and when people did it mods reacting normally pretty fast. And we are not talking about these kind of silly examples. They were posts about these posters being a conservative, or voting for trump, criticizcing femininsm etc. They used everything against them.

And they were not only happy about the Wolfenstein add. They were happy when some australian Politican got punched for being pro life. In threads people asking about advice about some racial issues at work etc. The most common answer was punch him in the face. Also as a German I think thanks to places like Neogaf the word Nazi has lost so much meaning. Now almost everyone who disagrees with certain stands or topics has become a nazi. But thats just me.

As for modern feminism: Some also call it Third-wave-feminism. Like every group or Ideology BLM also should be allowed to crtitizised. I for example find it really stupid when they try to barricade highways with 20 people. the only thing it does it makes common people angry. And BLM has some really shady people in there as well. I remember this BLM toronoto leader who had some really racist views how her race is superior to white people etc.

But this goe way beyond Neogaf and is probably pretty offtopic. I am jsut saying there are always reason to crticize groups or ideologies. Neogaf was one of thee places who did not allow any of it.

@skipper847: how is this racist? This is a product people ask for this is what the product does Just like you promote a tanning product. I am sorry I just do not get it.

Having a fairer skin is pretty common and has nothing to do with racism...

I loved the very first game back then but everything after that was so not in the spirit of this game. I never saw the IP as iconic. To me it was one good game.

@Willy105: I wish it was a parody but it cerainly was not. I would seek out reccent quotes (Without names of course) but since the site is down it is pretty hard.

There was not only a lot of criticsm which is totally fine. People there celebrated criminal acts and encouraged violence against people. And yes the stalking is true. Especially in these kind of threads when you actually tried to play the middle or try to argue how its not ok to use violence on people etc. Some people digged older posts up just so people could judge you past on your post history and make your opinion obsolete. And I am not talking here about mods I am talking about user while the mods simply allowed this in many cases.

And yes they did not doxx peoples personal information and when they did mods were strict there and removed it but digging up older posts went to an absurde level quite reccently until some mods finally stepped in and went harsh against it. Also this so called Zero policy did not help these people who actually tried to reason and try to discuss sensitive topics. These topics were for many "progressive" people an either for us or against us matter.

Against some stuff BLM does = racist

Against modern femininsm = sexist/MRA

Trying to argue about people like Johntron does a voiceover for some game = Gamergater

It was all about the extreme. Gaf had still some middle people but they were often bullied out of conversations or the other party went so hard on it that threads had to be closed.

The problem are not the adds but the acceptance of highly obese people even on an educational level. What I never understood is how agressive people go against smoking but the moment you go affter obesity you are getting accused of fatshaming.

@skipper847: how else would you actually make an add for this kind of product? I can see the dove ad being racist but this one is certainly not.

I am also against White Supremacy or Nazis, rape, threats etc. but I do not think selfjustice and violence (e.g punching) people is the right way to go or should be celebrated. Also the "Right side of History" is a really dangerous phrase IMO. Hitler also thought he was on the right side of history. It is something Dictators, Supremacist or cult leaders would think and say. I believe that there is no real right or wrong but it is far more complex than this. Also let us not forget that history was always written by the winner so even here using history as justification is really bad. World History should be used to analyze not to guilt or judge people.

Neogaf is or was an absolute echo chamber not tolerating much and if you mentioned anything the "wrong" people disagreed with these people went to your past history and searched for statements, opinions or actions they could get you for. As a German I would say they were similar to the STASI. And this also went to the gaming section. They killed a lot of discussion with accusations going after developer, personalities or even board member in very vile ways IMO. To me the "lets celebrate Antifa" threads were actually really scary. In Germany they are on the verge of being official called terrorists and they should not be celebrated at all.

And for the moderation: I do not mind strict moderation but even here mods were guilty of choosing sides a lot of times. I used to browse Neogaf quite a lot because it was the best source for fast gaming news but otherwise i am kind of glad they are hopefully gone now. In these times I can totally understand that people want to find some peaceful and safe places but Neogaf was not such a place. You always had to be careful about your language or expressing your views and I bet many who did not want to lose this "home" suffered greatly because of it.