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#1  Edited By pie-junior
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@alim298 said:

May those who caused this burn in hell. Alongside anyone who says Israel has the right to kill 270 people in defense. This isn't even the militia death toll you damned people. These are all civilians for God's sake...

That is the entire palestinian death toll. some of them are civilians and some are militants.

It's unknown what the ratio is exactly

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@GazaAli said:

Israel is trying to twist arm Hamas into a cease fire by a staggering death toll among civilians and the complete destruction of the failing infrastructure of the place. Only thing is Hamas doesn't give two fucks about all of that, seeing how they're basically a part of the fascist brotherhood.

I agree with almost everything you wrote here, with exception of this line (and the redundant empty superlatives you seem to add to everything lately). I think Israel is trying to twist Hamas's arms for internal reasons, and to make sure it keeps quiet for a long enough while. however I think israel isn't trying to hit civilians- I think it lacks the intelligence (not the cerebral kind) or abilities to destroy Hamas relevant military infrastructure or kill its in-hiding leadership, from the air, so it makes do with trying to create destruction, but tries doing so with as few civilian casualties as possible. I think they have -like- a mental image of the entire Gaza population seated on a heap of debris, in the aftermath. since this is patently impossible, it kills a lot of people.

since killing civilians would severely twist Israel's arm diplomatically, and may invite international pressure to halt the entire operation while hamas is still firing- I think its unrealistic that Israel's goal here is civilian killing. I also don't believe Israeli intelligence and military personnel don't realise Hamas wouldn't be significantly moved by a mounting palestinian death toll. The only party with a (short term) benefit from palestinian deaths is hamas- in that it may halt the operation and make it the 'winner'. I think this goes well with the Israeli warning tactics and the hamas media messages supporting human shielding of homes.

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@GazaAli said:

You're so quick to lay the burden on us. Hamas would never have existed and it certainly would never have found anyone willing to buy into its BS if it was not for the methodical and prolonged oppression, injustice and immiseration Israel has inflicted on the Palestinian people.

The muslim brotherhood, and other 'Islam is the only answer' movements, seem a pretty popular thing outside the Palestinian territories

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It's offensive because the demonstrators thought a good way of protesting israeli action is attacking a synagogue and the french jewish community

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#5  Edited By pie-junior
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@GazaAli said:

Yes it happened and yes it is an anecdote so there isn't much to be said about it.

so is the OP

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@sSubZerOo said:

@chessmaster1989 said:

lol at countries imposing dress codes

**** that

.. Uh buddy you do know we have dress code laws as well in the United States.. Try walking around in public with a ski mask on during summer time or just in your briefs, see what happens..

lol

have you ever been to venice beach

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@GazaAli said:

That would definitely diminish the incentive to kill Jews as you put it and it would reduce the friction between the people that are being deprived of their own land and the perpetrators. Maybe Jews should refrain from living in those settlements if they're concerned about their safety. But again, why are you so fixated on riots? Its irrelevant to Israeli's brutality.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_fedayeen

because Palestinian murder of Israelis began after the 1967 occupation

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ITT: ali doesn't understand that the american public is constantly bombarded with images of similar actions done by american police to american citizens, and so does not understand why noone is as outraged as him

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@GazaAli said:

The thing about being uninformed is that you tend to spout things that are fallacious and contradictory to reality, thus appearing uneducated and ignorant in general. Palestinian police have repeatedly arrested Israelis in regions under the jurisdiction of the PA and in all of these incidents they have handed them over to Israeli authorities.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Ramallah_lynching

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#10  Edited By pie-junior
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I liked middle-school a lot. I was with my childhood friends, and popularity derived a lot from being good at sports, and I was the shit, relative my year. In High school I was placed in advanced classes with the socially crippled and fat chicks, while my friends were happily frolicking with the degenerates of the lower tier levels. also I was, as I am now, a massive overachiever- and my stress levels for HS level final exams were, understatedly , inappropriate