Ok so let's all post 1 pic of something that bring back Nostalgia for you.. It may be an old toy you use to play with, a video game you played, a chocolate bar from back in the day etc.etc. For me it has to be:

I spent so much of my childhood playing that game, i wish i still had a copy :cry:

RiseAgainst12

That game was brilliant! so fun. My buddy and I used to play the vs game all the time.

For me Final Fantasy 6 and 7 bring back a lot of great memories

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[QUOTE="McJugga"]

Killing an animal that will only suffer and die in short amount of time =/= killing a innocent human that has the rest of its life to live.

McJugga

But the kid would suffer. It is unwanted and the parents are unable to care for it. Not every kid can be adopted into a loving home with enough money to support them. It is irresponsible for people to bring a child into anything less.

A newborn baby may also suffer throughout their life, so why can't we put him or her out of their misery?

There is no guaruntee that she or he will suffer throughout their entire life. They deserve the chance to determine their own life.

Just because there is no guarantee doesn't mean it isn't likely. Sometimes people have to make hard decisions based on what they have. I think if a parent who has no money wants to have a child it is irresponsible.. but I would never think they shouldn't have the choice to have the kid.. just as I would never expect a parent who doesn't believe they could take care of it to try anyways just because of that chance. fetuses are not capable of making decisions.. so we have to choose for them. Wether it is in what food to eat while pregnant or wether to have them in the first place it is up to the parents ultimately to make that decision based on what they can handle.

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[QUOTE="McJugga"]

She :P said that a fetus is not alive, a fetus is waiting to be alive. I was just pointing out that is not true.

How do you define a human being?

By thought? Then animals are human.

By emotions, and feelings? Then young babies are not anymore human than a cat.

How do you define a human?

videogamer456

I know you didn't ask me but I would love to take this opportunity to say I have just as much of a problem with putting down a sick animal as I do with abortion. It sucks to have to make the decision but sometimes its better for everyone.

Interesting questions! And very loaded indeed. I guess I don't believe in the death penalty.. I just don't see it as punishment enough. When it comes to putting down a mentally retarded person I guess it would depend heavily on a lot of factors but I don't envy or feel negatively towards any family member who has to make such a choice. I think if someone wants to die though they have every right to.

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I know you didn't ask me but I would love to take this opportunity to say I have just as much of a problem with putting down a sick animal as I do with abortion. It sucks to have to make the decision but sometimes its better for everyone.

McJugga

Killing an animal that will only suffer and die in short amount of time =/= killing a innocent human that has the rest of its life to live.

But the kid would suffer. It is unwanted and the parents are unable to care for it. Not every kid can be adopted into a loving home with enough money to support them. It is irresponsible for people to bring a child into anything less. If people are using birth control and an accident happens they shouldn't be condemned to having an unwanted child and the child should not be condemned to a life of misery. The world is overpopulated as it is and ending a potential "life" (brackets used because I don't care what your definition of life is) is really the best way to go in many cases insterad of having the kid because of some misplaced sense of morality or obligation.

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SEMANTICS YEAHHHHHHHHHH

I think its pretty clear why he meant by live.

Cancer is alive, one kills cancer, one does not define it as murder.

WHY?!?!?

Because cancer does not think.

McJugga

She :P said that a fetus is not alive, a fetus is waiting to be alive. I was just pointing out that is not true.

How do you define a human being?

By thought? Then animals are human.

By emotions, and feelings? Then young babies are not anymore human than a cat.

How do you define a human?

I know you didn't ask me but I would love to take this opportunity to say I have just as much of a problem with putting down a sick animal as I do with abortion. It sucks to have to make the decision but sometimes its better for everyone.

[QUOTE="piratedrunk"]Not if you have no problem with abortion. Sex isn't only for making babies.

mindstorm

That's not really the same. It's a quality of life issue not a simple inconvenience like a full stomach. If you can't provide a caring, safe environment for your child you shouldn't have it. You might think people shouldn't have sex if that is the case but THAT is irrelevant. For people who don't want kids pregnancy is not a "main purpose"for sex. And even if your argument was relevant.. would you make it illegal for people to throw up so they could eat more?

[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"][QUOTE="mindstorm"] I suppose just waiting isn't an option then...mindstorm

Not if you have no problem with abortion. Sex isn't only for making babies.

Why would you be in a relationship if either answer was yes?

I am definitely pro-choice. It is a better option than an unwanted child. I realize some people mistreat it as a backup plan for being irresponsible but I think the majority are the result of a mistake such as ineffective contraceptives and people should have access to safe abortion clinics. To those who disagree and say they don't want their tax dollars to pay for their bad choices.. do you think you should be paying for smokers who need hospital care or drinkers who cause car accidents? I don't. But the option for treatment should still be available regardless.

Sounds like it could be from a megaman game to me