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#1  Edited By quakeknight1991
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Reviews are in and....it's fine. It seems to be what people expected it to be. But then again XIII got a higher score and everyone hates that game.

By higher score do you mean gamespot's or metacritic's ? Gamespot no longer gives review scores with decimals so that is probably the reason why FFXV scored a little lower. As for metacritic, FFXIII has a 83 metacritc score while FFXV has right now a 86 metacritic score.

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From what I am reading it seems like FFXV is basically the MGS5 os JRPGs.

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In my opinion either Dark souls 3 or Doom deserve it, unfortunately most gaming sites will end up giving their GOTY awards to Uncharted 4.

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#4  Edited By quakeknight1991
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Everyone knew this was going to happen. In a shrinking japanese console market what matters most are the prices, not power. As such it was obvious that the ps4 slim would what would sell the most ps4s. Overall it was a very nice week for the ps4 as the ps4 slim and the ps4 pro combined sold 38k units.

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#5  Edited By quakeknight1991
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@beardmad said:
Gamers as a whole will collectively find it to be the worst Final Fantasy ever.

I would not be so sure about that. There is a thread in neogaf where people who have gotten the game early are posting their impressions and most people are saying its a solid 8/10 game.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@quakeknight1991:

1. So we disagree on what overwhelmingly positive means in this case. Fair enough.

2. Bro, that's not what I was getting at. I don't expect fully fleshed out balls to the wall action.

I was responding to this claim: "Because of that people refused to learn the combat system and just automatically called it shit."

And saying that's not me. I love a system that makes you work for it. I only brought up games from other genres as examples of that. I didn't just dick around with the system for a few minutes and deem it to be shit. I spent hours with it. I watched videos of the "best players" pushing it to its limits. I'm just not feeling it. It's basic and limp as far as game feel goes.

3. I already dislike 30fps, so dipping below that is gross to me. It should be locked at least. And sorry, but I don't consider TW3 to be a high bar, certainly nothing to measure by lol.

2. Well if you compare it with the other open world action RPGs we have today I think it has enough depth. Just look at games like The Witcher 3 or Skyrim. Their combat systems are as basic as they get. In fact I can easily say that FFXV has a lot more types of attacks than those games, not to mention there is an actual combo system.

3. Well yeah I think your expectations were a bit too high there considering we are talking here about a open world console game. Nearly every single open world console game there is runs at 30fps with occasional dips.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@quakeknight1991:

1. I checked your first two links. The first one is actually a bit negative in spots and the second one is far from "overwhelmingly" positive lmao. I'm not sure if you understand what overwhelmingly positive means. Hint: Luke warm reception with hopes for a good game is not what it means.

2. Can't blame me for playing the demos provided and forming an opinion based on that. And no, I love a good battle system that rewards the player for learning its ins and outs. I love 3d beat em ups along the lines of Ninja Gaiden, Bayo, and DMC. I love a good fighting game and those games make you go to work for months to handle their systems well. So no, I'm not in that camp. I don't just write a battle system off for such silly reasons. The battle system in FFXV is as expected. It's got the Nomura touch. It's limp in the same vein as KH. No depth, no oomph, just flat.

3. Nah. They've all been shabby and it's not just the gameplay, the game looks like a performance nightmare.

4. Quite the opposite. I'd love to be proven wrong about this game and I've said that dozens of times over the years regarding this title. I got my start in this series back when FF4 came out. Since then I've played every single player main entry title. I used to base my console purchases on which system was getting the next FF. When these games released it used to be an event. I'd love to have an awesome new FF game!

I have no reason to wish failure upon this game. It's another entry in what was once one of my favorite series. It's a flagship title in a genre that I'd love to enjoy once again. It's basically an action game now and I love action games! I just see the writing on the wall. I could just as easily say that it's you who is desperate to see the game succeed and, given the circumstances, that accusation carries more merit.

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I am betting that you would be in love with all the previews if they were negative.

Nah, sorry. I don't parrot what these industry clowns have to say, whether it aligns with my opinions or not.

And really, it's not like I couldn't look around and find negative previews and impressions. I simply don't care.

1.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/final-fantasy-15-review

I’m still confused and not entirely sure what Final Fantasy 15 wants to be. The open-world mechanics and slightly schizophrenic plot make it feel radically different to older FF games. This could alienate some JRPG fans, but personally I’m excited about the direction Square Enix has taken.

The game got off to a slow start and the opening hours were a drudge. But Final Fantasy 15 quickly grew on me. The characters may look ridiculous, but it’s hard not to invest in Noctis and his party’s story after a few hours travelling with them. Combat also started showing its potential once I got my head around some of its more advanced features.

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/09/18/final-fantasy-xv-preview-a-promising-beginning/

After playing Final Fantasy XV for an hour I came out more optimistic about the game than ever before. I have always been dubious about the overall quality of the game. This is due both to recent Final Fantasy games failing to engage me, as well as the long and storied development history behind this one.

While I obviously can’t speak to the quality of the final game, I can say that it has a strong opening. With no hand holding tutorial sequence or hallway to be pushed through, it appears this Final Fantasy is aimed squarely at critics of the last major single player entry, Final Fantasy XIII. Whether or not the quality of this first hour can be maintained throughout the game, we will all have to wait and find out come this November, but so far so good.

Even if the previews had a few negative points, they had overall a positve impression of the game. By "overwhelmingly" positve, I meant that the vast mayority of previews had a positive first impression of the game.

2. The thing is that even the Platinum demo will be already over 8 months old by the time the game is released. The demo that provides an accurate representation of the final game is like I said the Judgement Disc demo on the Japanese Playstation Store. That said though if you are looking for a game like Ninja Gaiden or Bayonnetta you will not find it in FFXV. FFXV is an action RPG not an hack and slash game. The hack and slash action of the game does not have the depth of something like DMC or Bayonnetta but it has elements that make up for that like party commands, buffs, magic... As for the action combat you can do a basic string of attacks by holding the attack button but you can perform specials by combining the attack button with directional imputs or with delayed imputs. Each weapon category has its own unique set of specials and every single weapon in the "Royal Arms" category has a unique set of specials.

3. From what I have seen in the Judgement Disc demo runs mostly at 30 fps, with just occassionaly going below that. It certainly is running much better than the ps4 version of The Witcher 3 did at release.

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#8  Edited By quakeknight1991
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@ConanTheStoner said:

lol good stuff.

@quakeknight1991 said:

Final Fantasy XV has been getting overwhelmingly positive previews since gamescom

1. That's false.

2. The playable demos have been shit.

3. The stage demos have looked like shit.

4. Even if it were getting overwhelming positive previews (it's not) that wouldn't mean shit to me. This industry puts all kinds of horrid games up on a pedestal.

1. It is true. Here are a few

http://www.trustedreviews.com/final-fantasy-15-review

http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/09/18/final-fantasy-xv-preview-a-promising-beginning/

http://www.polygon.com/2016/10/19/13326636/final-fantasy-15-pre-review-first-hours-preview-video-square-enix-ps4-playstation-4-xbox-one

http://www.gamesradar.com/15-hours-with-final-fantasy-15s-strange-open-world/

https://www.destructoid.com/i-played-a-good-chunk-of-final-fantasy-xv-and-it-seems-fine-394020.phtml

http://www.ign.com/videos/2016/10/19/final-fantasy-xv-the-mother-of-reinvention

2. The Duscae demo was an alpha version. The combat system of the game is very different right now. The Platinum demo was just a tech demo, only the last Iron Giant boss showed the actual combat system of the final game. Since it was a tech demo, it was impossible to die. Because of that people refused to learn the combat system and just automatically called it shit. The demo that is actually representative of the final product is the Judgement Disc demo available in the Japanese Playstation store and its awesome. It pretty much fixed all of the issues the combat system had in the Platinum demo.

3. Only the E3 Microsoft stage presentation was crap and that was largely because the guy playing sucked really bad

4. So in other words you are just desperate to see the game fail. I am betting that you would be in love with all the previews if they were negative.

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#9  Edited By quakeknight1991
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I kinda love how people react to this game. Final Fantasy XV has been getting overwhelmingly positive previews since gamescom but for some reason people ignore that, then one comedian who is not even a gamer has a negative impression of the game and people use it to prove that the game will suck even though it is not meant to be taken seriously, which is why it is called "clueless gamer".

Conan was bound to hate it anyway. JRPGs in general are games that require patience. If you lack patience you will not enjoy them. Oh and before anyone come and says "bu but he loved the witcher 3". He loved the Witcher 3 just because he got to bang Yennefer.

@FireEmblem_Man said:
@omnichris said:

Why does his opinion even matter to some people? His standards of games are probably as low as they can possibly get. He clearly has no idea what a JRPG is. He wouldn't like old school RPGs either. He's just one of those that wants to press buttons and see pretty effects happen on screen. Doesn't care about story, characters, gameplay. None of that. If I was a game develeoper I would most certainly not give early copies out to clueless celebs like these. It really has nothing to do with a franchise becoming niche. He's just too shallow of a gamer to understand what this game is. This game is no doubt going to sell millions. I loled when he asked one of the developers in the other room why this game took 7 months to create. Yeah Conan try 10 years and hundreds of millions of dollars.

and they still don't get why people used to enjoy a series like Final Fantasy.

The thing is that the FF fanbase does not even know what it wants. You will never be able to please everyone in the FF fanbase. If you try to appeal to a portion of the FF fanbase, there will be another portion of the fanbase that will dislike the product you are developing. In other words, no matter what you do there will be a part of the FF fanbase that will hate your product no matter what. With FFXV Square Enix is exactly trying to fix all the issues FFXIII had.

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oh yay, it is forza over and over again. For how long will xbox fans will allow microsft to milk Halo/Forza/Gears of war?