[QUOTE="magicalclick"]Well, Blue Dragon comes with 3 discs. I don't see Japanese gamers talkings$$$ about it. Besides, it is full of CGI, not really game data. If you only store game data + Halo or Dead Rising style real time cut-scene, it will only need 2 discs max. I think Mass Effect is coming with one dics with all that data.mjk_1

oh yea. I forgot about multiple disks.

The problem is that certain games you can have multiple disk like action/adventure(fable 2 and banjo), rpgs(blue dragon)and most single player games. But games like gta and sports game you CANT have multiple disk.

I think it's much better, the 360 has only 3 big games. I know most of which will score higher than the PS3's lineup but I would rather have about 8 great games than 3 amazing games, but I guess that's up for debate.Bartz_Has_Bite

Pick your "3" amazing games out of this list....Two worlds, bio shock, blue dragon, eternal sonata, Halo 3, Lost oddyssey, Mass Effect Left 4 dead(maybe 08). Im guessing the "3" great games are Bio, Halo, and Mass but Eternal sonata and lost Oddyssey with be great games.

Eternal Sonata of course.

[QUOTE="ragincoley86"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

You can play other MGS games in first person?

Theres over the shoulder camera shooting in other MGS games?

Octocamo is in other MGS games?

Your in a battlefield in other MGS games with the ability to fight for a side or fight for nobody?

MK.22 is in other MGS games?

You can frisk people in other MGS games?

honestly, i could do this ALL DAY

nowhatisthat

WOW playing in first person so new and innovating. You could shoot in the other games in fp now you can move.

over the shoulder is so re4. Different camera angles are new coats of paint.

octocamo is the same thing as camouflage in mgs 3.

That is a nice touch i have to admit bout the fighting on each side.

Frisking is the same as pointing at their nuts or head and making them dance to drop items.

I can go on All day. Tell me one thing that INNOVATING about mgs 4 besides the graphics and story.

After hiding in the garbage can your smell makes you become spotted easier. You use snake to control the robot with a ps3 controller by using sixaxis. You can use a playboy magizine as a decoy to help you distract the enemies. I can go on all day, but I hope that you get the idea that their are plenty of new elements in this game. What were you expecting them to completely turn it into a different type of game like a platformer or something?

1. Hiding in the garbage can for too long and then smelling is theSAME as staying out in the cold and getting sick that causes you to sneeze giving away you position (MGS1 ps1)

2. The little robot is cool but i dont care how u control it.

3. You could use playboy mags in the mgs2. In the new one you can look through the pages.

I hope you got the idea that its not alot of new elementsbut still a bad a** game. I love mgs dont get me wrong but its just like the other ones.

[QUOTE="ragincoley86"][QUOTE="R-Dot-Yung"]

You can play other MGS games in first person?

Theres over the shoulder camera shooting in other MGS games?

Octocamo is in other MGS games?

Your in a battlefield in other MGS games with the ability to fight for a side or fight for nobody?

MK.22 is in other MGS games?

You can frisk people in other MGS games?

honestly, i could do this ALL DAY

raualex

WOW playing in first person so new and innovating. You could shoot in the other games in fp now you can move.

over the shoulder is so re4. Different camera angles are new coats of paint.

octocamo is the same thing as camouflage in mgs 3.

That is a nice touch i have to admit bout the fighting on each side.

Frisking is the same as pointing at their nuts or head and making them dance to drop items.

I can go on All day. Tell me one thing that INNOVATING about mgs 4 besides the graphics and story.

I'm getting seriously sick of people tossing the word innovating around like STDs at the red light district in this forum these days.Why on earth does every bleed'n game have to be innovative? innovation for the sake of innovation is NOT a positive thing.

Why can't a game just be really well made these days, with a lot of fun additions and even though it's been done in stickman-stickyman- sticks from 1968 doesn't mean it's gonna be bad?Stop pulling up crap fromthe atari days just to make stupid point, which really no-one butt he"bois" cares about. Innovation isn't something that's has to be everywhere, every time, all the time... Geeez really people, come on.

*ps:fix the damned opera faults ;)

I agree we you on the note. But i just hate people saying the halo 3 is halo 2.5 but mgs 4 is gods gift to gamers. great>innovating.

[QUOTE="ragincoley86"][QUOTE="Infinatey"]

I'm a cow myself, but they have.

Banjo 3-no point, most of the original members of the rare team left when Microsoft bought them.

Alan Wake-looks pretty good. From the makers of max Payne.

Fable 2-1 button combat system ruins this.

Cry on-could be good. But, sagakuchi's lame words of "it is my goal to make the player cry every 15 minutes" puts it sort of lower now. Plus, it's more of a happy-theme rather than a dark theme.

DOA 5-DOA is fairly good. But, it was rumored that this would come to the PS3.

Halo Wars-1up says that rts lovers might not like it, but halo lovers would.

Splinter Cell conviction-could be good.

That's all I have.

Infinatey

Put lost oddesy and Too Human on that list. Banjo will be great and you know it.

Plus, from the looks of things, Too Human is going to 2009.

No, LO is in 08 must not been following the game I see and what if if did come out in 07......Oh no,A game coming out sooner then thought. Damn you MS.Too human isnt vaporware just pushed back.Its dmc meetsDiablo,you dont have to like it but sounds good to me.Banjo good or bad we'll have to see.