[QUOTE="SmoothBrother1"]Really, this is a position where sony can really learn and thing or 2 from microsoft. MGS is definitely one of the biggest games for sony, and we can't get an answer on a release date, even though they have been working in it for a long time. Halo 3 is the biggest game for microsoft and what do 360 fans get, I release date at least 2 months earlier then everyone expected. Why can we get any news of release dates for any of the big games sony has. Lair, Warhawk, FFXIII, MGS4, no dates at all for any of these games, not even a time frame for us to look forward to, way to go sony for keeping us in the dark.deadkingdg

Delays ARE GOOD. How many times must we repeat it? NO ONE wants a game with bugs or an unfinished touch. They better take their sweet time and deliver the best they can. Patience is a virtue, and good things come to those who wait. And not knowing when a game is supposed to come out is good, because nothing ever go as planned in programming (I know, I'm a programmer), and delays are a common thing, even when they have to work over 70 hours a week in the last month of development. So if you don't want to angry the impatient customers when you have to delay your game, then just don't announce a date at all until all is ready.

Delay? There was no release date to begin with.....so there cant be a delay. 

[QUOTE="c0mplex"][QUOTE="kindredmachine"][QUOTE="c0mplex"] now the MS line-up doesn't have any big franchises like Halo or GoW this coming fall... so Halo 3 will NEED to come out in order for MS to hold its lead this coming X-mas season. s0lid_snake111

Yeah right it doesn't. This summer and fall the 360 is getting Virtua Fighter 5, GTA4, Blue Dragon and Mass Effect... and of course Halo 3. That's a pretty sweet line up :-)

- Blue Dragon and Mass Effect are unproven brands to the average consumer (and the casual consumer is what drives the business)

- GTA4 and Virtua Fighter 5 is on/will be on the PS3 before/at the same time as the X360.

Halo 3 is the only big name that can unquestionably sell ONLY the X360 system.

and the ps3 has MGS4 and..........yeah, EXACTLY!!! if you consider bluedragon and masseffect as unproven brands, i dont wanna know your opinions on the ps3 titles, and Mgs isnt a halo size seller either,its more of a hardcore title. so yeah, 360 still has the best lineup. and, if your excited about killzone.....try playing the first one....and your excitement will go down.

So wat do you do with your biggest hit...you release early so more 360's are in peoples hands. With more 360's got there games like mass effect, too human and Lost odssey has a better chance to sell more copies. I think this is very a smart move. 

Did you play GoW2? There was so many new things going on in the weapons, moves, and platforming. Did you want them to make a First person shooter with Kratos?Pablo620

More moves weapons and platforming....sounds like the "halo 2.5" comparison to halo 2 spoken in the language of fanboyism. But i see what your saying it is a sequel and a great one at that. 

[QUOTE="raidenseven"][QUOTE="cabjnico"][QUOTE="raidenseven"]

fanbyos ignore these facts cause they just want to bash halo,

good point though but its not going to stop anything.

DarthMar

quoting that.

it's idiots-war forums

what? are u calling me an idiot?

Theory proven!

Oh, and God Of War was a fully fleshed out sequel. Not 1.5

The only thing bout the GOW was a sequel was a story. gameplay was the same but doesnt mean it wasnt a great game cuz it kicked greek ***.