Second coming of J.C. confirmed.  3 days later the 360  surfaced from its tomb to show it was once again the best selling system that month.

So the bible gaming school stories say, " For the Godstation 4 loved the world so much, it came down in human form as a Microsoft product to show the world what divine gaming is, only to be trampled to death by the very cows it was to save." 

Will we never learn

What you don't want to admit to yourself is that Sony secretly sits up at night and fantasizes about making money off the online system they pay to exist. Only because they needed a reason to be seen as an awesome alternative to XBOX live have they adopted this free model. It is not because they care about you and 15 years ago they slept with your biological mother.

Blu ray has really turned out to not be a gimmick

lostrib

I love Blue Ray movies. But when you make your devs fill your disc with uncompressed data to prove a point.

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Next gen doesn't start until Game Gear says so.

ConanTheStoner

Back when gaming was simple. Genisis or Super Nintendo.

Yup. And I loved them both, but I'd take the SNES any day of the week.

Golden Axe and Sonic. But nothing beats the first entire day of playing Mario Kart in vs. mode with my brother.

Next gen doesn't start until Game Gear says so.

ConanTheStoner

Back when gaming was simple. Genisis or Super Nintendo.

PS4 > your opinion

Gue1

Speculation, I havent given an opinion yet.

1. Sony has had great IP's come from their developers. Unfortunatley none of these are system sellers to any extent. This does not give Sony an edge , but does appease the smallest part of their install base the self proclaimed 'Hardcore Gamer'

2. If development cost does actually double, expect multiplats to look the same across the board for consoles. What's the best way to shave cost, quit making double the assets and doing twice the work. If games look the same then the average consumer will not be swayed to go Sony.

3. Sony wants to believe consumers take pride in shelling out money for the most exspensive hi tech console - They will continue to be wrong

Microsoft wants to believe that the average consumer wants to pay for an online service - they will continue to be right

4. It took Sony's 3rd iteration of the PS machine 6+ years to marginally pass Microsoft's 2nd iteration of the Box. What does that mean. Look at the numbers , Sony's competitors have absorbed a large part of their previous install base.

5. Gimmicks. Every console used and abused these this gen and it worked. Every console had a healthy install base. Sony's best gimmick was Blue ray. If Blue ray has any importance to gaming it is yet to be seen. There will not be people lining up day one to get their hands on a blue ray player with gaming potential.

So are you saying low end to mid-grad PC's cant supply great entertainment.

Because the 360/PS3 did this for 7 years.

And you whole heartedly believe the PS4 will.

This whole year head start is so tired. Microsoft made a legitimate strategic move and it was perfect. From xbox to 360 they almost tripled their install base. These people didnt appear overnite. They were part of the install base for the PS2 that microsoft absorbed. So what you want us to belive is that Microsoft sold 70 million in their first year and the PS3 defied everything by evening up in the next 6 to 7. Who cares the damage is done. Microsoft now has a larger peice of the pie and Sony a smaller one.

Being able to continue playing your game after your tv is aquired for other viewing is not a gimmick, it's a solution. Nintendo thrives off the people who love their games and when they release their top games they sell.