Normally I'd scoff BUT, you did a good job of defending your viewpoint which is really the only thing I've asked for.

@tormentos:

Again this is a fact Killzone MP look better than single player,and runs smoother to thanks to having more resources concentrated on a smaller area this is a fact no my opinion an there are tons of videos online which you can see for your self.

I've seen tons of videos of both, and not a single one backs up anything you've stated. The fact that you think a greater draw distance and open area's are going to massively drain graphical resources so everything else ends up looking like shit is once again evidence that you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.

The MP does not improved lighting, textures, models, particle effects, not a single visual advantage. I'd ask you stop pulling things from your ass but that's not likely to happen anytime soon.

This is funny because several Hermits here actually own GPU on PC which are weaker than the PS4,the one i argue with got a 560ti on 2011 far from top of the line even then,and now a 770 again far from top end even know.

lol a 560 ti would of maxed out any game in 2011, just like a 770 would right now. Seriously what are you even talking about?

Most gamers don't go for high end GPU i posted a link with stats from an actual service on PC,you posted nothing but your sorry ass opinion.

So yeah my link >>>>>>>>> your opinion is simple.

Yeah unfortunately for you your link doesn't prove any of this. This the survey you showed correct?

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

It shows a majority of gamers use Nvidia cards, Intel processors, DirectX11, 4 CPU's etc. Nothing in this survey suggest that a majority of PC gamers have weaker cards than the 7850.

Not only that but your link doesn't show how many people were in the survey either.

Dude you can optimize all you want a $600 will beat the xbox one all generation long,lol and you claim i am the one who doesn't know anything about graphics,optimization will help you get most of your hardware,optimization will not help you get 3 TF and stay close graphically to a way stronger GPU,i know the PS3 beat the sorry ass of a 7800,but a 8800 beat the crap out of the PS3 easy and is a 2006 GPU, no matter how much you optimize you will not get that king of performance.

This has to be the saddest attempt I've ever seen of someone pretending like he has the slightest idea what he's talking about.

Dude the 7770 can actually run BF4 in 1080p on high at 33 FPS.

Dude the Xbox One can run the game at 60 FPS.

The xbox one is not a step bellow lets say 900p is actually 720p which is way lower than 1080p,at 720p that 7770 should be able to get more than 60 FPS in 720p low detail the 7770 blast 81 FPS,ryse that to high and you will probably get 60 or 56,which is actually higher than the xbox one.

What the hell did I just read?

And your making the idiotic assumption that any one who spends $620 for a gaming PC will do so only for Titanfall,last time i hear PC had a ton of exclusives to.

Um, I've never made that assumption, I've stated that there are other games on PC including exclusives but that a 620$ PC is going to get outdated quickly and you won't be able to play future titles without sinking more money in your PC. Hence costing more in the long run.

Your crazy BF5 will run much better on a 7870 PC than will on your crappy xbox one.

Well we've already established that you know nothing about graphic cards. The 7870 was released in my 2012, Battlefield 5 will probably come out in late 2015 which means the 7870 will have been out for 3 and a 1/2 years by then. It won't run better on the PC.

I think it is. Hope he isn't wearing white.

You can buy everything in KI including future characters and DLC for one price. Titanfall is most likely going to come up with a season pass. Do some research before talking next time.

@tormentos:

1)You are a damn moron the more you do on any engine the more visuals take a hit,this is plain and simple fuing math,reason why Crysis has been so demanding over years.

If Crysis was like Killzone 1 it would not eat so much resources.

BF4 is 900p for that same reason when Ghost is 1080p,BF4 look better,does way more on bigger stages,so yeah the impact to performance is fu**ing bigger.

Online Killzone is not even close to BF4,is much more enclosed,doesn't have the level of destructibility BF4 does,so it runs at 1080p,Killzone MP is done on very enclosed stages,and is not doing what Killzone single player is,so you have more resources to deploy on the fu**ing smaller area with the end result been MP looking better,this is now something new i claim,you most have miss my other arguments comparing Killzone SF online to other games.

lol you're such an idiot. I'll ask again, show evidence, any type of proof, videos, testimonials, maybe some pics that show the MP looking better than the single player.

I understand that pulling random things from your ass is something you excel at but most people have seen the games SP and MP and you're the only person I've ever seen that's stated this ridiculous garbage.

The idea that the MP looks better solely because of some areas in Killzone are more open is ridiculous even for your standards. You want to know what Killzone's resources for the MP were dedicated to? Getting the game to run at freaking 60 FPS.

To me this the true sequel to Halo, 343i can blow me.

No, I accused you of knowing about graphics because of constant asinine post you make like Killzone's Multiplayer looking better than the SP. The statement of you not owning a gaming PC was to show that you're the last person who should be posting about GPU's. Especially since it was only a few days ago you tried to argue that it'd be better to build a cheap PC to play Titanfall on than on the Xbox.

Hell in this very thread you stated that most PC gamers have a GPU weaker than 7850. You constantly pull things from your ass that have no basis and no ground to stand on.

If you knew something you will know why Killzone SF actually looks better online with faster frames.

It's funny because I'm willing to bet that you can't find a single piece of evidence, a video or a pic that shows Killzone's Multiplayer looking better than the Single player.

Is pretty easy single player has way bigger areas to draw than multiplayer which is more enclosed,and much much smaller,you are not playing on maps the size of KZ single player they are way smaller,so you get to do more because there are more resources.

Dude, by your retarded logic all of the resources Guerrilla Games had went into giving the Single Player a greater draw distance at the cost of degrading textures, particle effects and other graphical detail.

EVERYTHING in the SP looked better than the MP. Character models, textures, particle affects, lighting, shadows, every graphic detail in the SP looks better than the MP. And you won't be able to find any evidence at all showing otherwise.

But since your are a moron who defend the xbox one,while you try to downplay the PS4 at the same time for graphics i would not expect you to get it...

How can anyone understand anything you say when you pull 90% of your post straight from your ass?

Think of it like Ryse,do you think that Ryse been open world would look even close to how it looks now.?

Dafuq?

@tormentos: The 7970 is around the same level as the 770, actually it's a bit slower than the 770, it might have better OC capabilities. The point is if a 7970 can run the game at 60 fps, a similar card like the 770 should be able, chances are they turned up the anti aliasing in that test.

Than again you're the same person who just said Killzone SF MP looks better than the SP. So it isn't like you have any idea what you're talking about.

Killzone's MP looks better than the single player, yet the MP runs at 60 fps and the single player runs at 30 fps...

So the better looking component runs better than the worse looking component...according to you...

You should really be the poster child for making inbreeding illegal...