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#1  Edited By Robertos
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@silentchief said:

That's categorically false. TROP has more race swaps and lore changes then any show on Amazon or just about any show in general.

No it doesn't. List the LOTR lore characters who had swaps in TRoP, then I'll list them for The Boys. Neither swaps for either of these shows were the reason for the quality. It usually never is.

No one gives shit and it has almost no real impact, most of the time.

@silentchief said:

Well it seems like you would care then some of the time which makes your answer hypocritical.

Semantics debate. Not only was I talking about the most extreme cases, but even for those I don't care enough to cry about it, burn merchandise, or boycott. More importantly, the example in the OP is not anything as extreme as Cleopatra or SBI. The WH40K situation is more close to Dune and The Boys. Nothingburgers.

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#2  Edited By Robertos
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@sargentd said:

"Explain to me the crime being alleged and what evidence proves such crime was made"

Nobody here can do it lol..

@sargentd said:
@ogvampire said:

@sargentd: a Trumper asking for evidence is beyond hilarious, and also futile since they will denounce whatever evidence you show them. in other words, it's a cult.

Cus you don't have any evidence champ!

I literally did this in two links days ago.

Donald Trump trial evidence: See photos, notes and books shown to jury (usatoday.com)

‘Pay With Cash:’ The Evidence Against Trump at Hush Money Trial - Bloomberg

Trolling?

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#3  Edited By Robertos
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Oddly enough seems more historically accurate than other AC's, which have tons of wild bullshit. This at least is based on something real lol. Not worth getting mad about though, but I do understand SOME of the complaints.

What's more pressing is the payment/content model for a SP game, and any potential shit gameplay decisions. But of course this stupid nothingburger drama will hide those REAL problems.

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#4  Edited By Robertos
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@silentchief said:

@robertos:

I had a connection with The Boys and Dune lore. I did not care about a melanin count or dick. Being normal is awesome lol.

Yet you are lying to yourself. If Batman is all of a sudden a black female then you don't care? 🤣🤣

That's normal? 🤣🤣

I answered this specific example and nuance pages ago,

@robertos said:

When it comes to a well established main character with such cultural significance as Batman, yes it might effect the quality and outlook. Which is why I'm saying most of the time and usually.

Making Batman a black female would be be silly and stupid. Very easy for me to say since I'm not a far leftist. I would laugh at it and call it dumb. I probably wouldn't do much more than that, depending on what you considering "caring". But to be fair, I would also probably laugh at people who got overly upset at it, tbh. Like burning Batman dolls and shirts, or other nonsense. Or boycotts.

Again these are extreme examples and hypotheticals. The WH40K changes are relatively tame compared to this Batman hypothetical or that dumb Cleopatra show, and even less than the ones found in The Boys and Dune. Both of which are quite stellar.

@silentchief said:

"Rings of Power" put DEI front and center race swapping entire species. No there were no elves with " black characteristics". They spent more money on thst show than any show in history and critics enjoyed it yet fans hated it and it failed miserably.

Again, multiple media have more race and gender swaps than TRoP and are considerably more successful and highly rated. Hell, from the same company at that. That show has some mixed reviews, primarily based off writing and acting. A black elf and dwarf were not the reason for this.

Apart from the most extreme examples/hypotheticals, this really isn't what effects quality. The WH40K show has every right to be as good as anything else even with this minor change. It boils down to the quality of the work.

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#5  Edited By Robertos
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@sargentd said:
@robertos said:
@sargentd said:
@palasta said:

The irony too.. because the most likely scenario why Amazon wants female custodies.. is probably so they can interject some cliche love interest scenario into the show lol...

If it's as good as Amazon's Fallout and The Boys(which has substantially more race/gender swaps than this WH40K situation), I don't really care. IMO of course.

TRoP has some writing and acting problems. It could easily be much better if Amazon gets it's head out of it's ass.

You most likely don't care because you have no connection to 40k anyway or it's lore.

I had a connection with The Boys and Dune lore. I did not care about a melanin count or dick. Being normal is awesome lol.

@sargentd said:

Its not about hating women characters, its amazon not respecting the source material.

They haven't done this in any of their most successful and critically acclaimed show. I doubt they will start now, gender swaps or not.

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#6  Edited By Robertos
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@silentchief said:

@robertos:

That post was entirely a Straw-Man. I do not hold most of those positions, I agree with most of what he said.

SBI are shit, and the exact opposite extreme of this stupid nonsense. The Cleopatra stuff was lunacy. But factually speaking neither of those are like the OP, so I'm confused at that entire post assuming I agree with those things.

You are denying that this shit happens though 🤣.

I literally just said I agree that those things are real and stupid. How is that denial lol.

To me it's the opposite side of the same pathetic coin I've been laughing at for four pages now. It's easy to see as someone near the center. The far right wrongly complains about nothing burger race/sex swaps. The left cries about not enough blacks in feudal Japan or some bullshit. Dumbasses being hyperbolic over nothingburgers and silly shit.

@silentchief said:

They are changing established lore for DEI.

Yeah maybe they just want diverse hiring. Many successful shows and movies have done so. But there is a such thing as going too far, like I talked about earlier with your black Batman example. Or Cleopatra.

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#7  Edited By Robertos
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@sargentd said:
@palasta said:

The irony too.. because the most likely scenario why Amazon wants female custodies.. is probably so they can interject some cliche love interest scenario into the show lol...

If it's as good as Amazon's Fallout and The Boys(which has substantially more race/gender swaps than this WH40K situation), I don't really care. IMO of course.

TRoP has some writing and acting problems. It could easily be much better if Amazon gets it's head out of it's ass.

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#8  Edited By Robertos
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@Vaasman said:
@sargentd said:
@Vaasman said:

The incels really hate seeing women with thick armor because they only like thicc armor.

You proved my point for me, thanks boo.

He severely lacks self awareness lol.

Then again....look at the kinds of people who cried about the Stellar Blade nothingburger:

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#9  Edited By Robertos
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@silentchief said:

got took took to the woodshed.

That post was entirely a Straw-Man. I do not hold most of those positions, I agree with most of what he said.

SBI are shit, and the exact opposite extreme of this stupid nonsense. The Cleopatra stuff was lunacy. But factually speaking neither of those are like the OP, so I'm confused at that entire post assuming I agree with those things.

@palasta said:

Did this possibility ever cross your little mind?

Ad homs aside, this crossed my mind, which is why I showed you were wrong. Dune had decades of establish lore altered by changing a gender, look of a clan, and few races. They go much farther than this 40K change, and Dune is a quite beloved sci-fi story. That didn't really stop the last 2 films from being God tier.

@palasta said:

This weirdo, a "politically psychotic loser ideologue", cares a lot, the Sweet Baby Inc. CEO,

Most interesting part 25:25:

"If they don't see the value ... just terrify them with the possibility what's gonna happen if they don't give you what you want."

"There is like a genuine value that you could impress upon them with both... uhm... ethically and financially"

"Ethically and financially"...

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/1/23620217/final-fantasy-xvi-diversity-naoki-yoshida-interview

Completely agreed. SBI suck and are opposite side of the same hyper fixated on race/gender coin, which is almost as bad. But can you prove such maliciousness for this specific 40K situation? Also I am fine with Yoshida's creative choice.

What's even going on.

@palasta said:

Nextflix Cleopatra or The Women King, or this guy here, vomiting a whole stream of historical incorrectnes.

I am 100% against the Cleopatra far left lunacy. Like I said before, this bullshit does have its limits such as historical characters. Although I'll admit I can't say I actually got angry and really invested, more like mildly annoyed at most.

@palasta said:

This falls squarely on the writing and directing. Common sense. Occam's Razor.

Writing, narrative development, character design... why do you think companies like WB, Microsoft, Sony, EA etc hire organisations like Sweet Baby Inc. or individuals like Anita Sarkissian. Because they can't move the slider from ivory to ebony here and there?

I'm completely against the loss in quality from direct, writing, and acting due to SBI.

@palasta said:

The danger of ideological BS in your simple minds.

Fortunately I don't belong to any one solid tribe, and can call both SBI lovers and the idiots who burned dolls over Barbie as sad losers. I guess my mind isn't simple enough to be mad enough at the nothing burger in the OP.

This nonsense doesn't even register .1% in polling as a concerning issue. As it shouldn't, this is a sub sub culture war memes. I have no idea how this issue upsets someone SO much.

Most Important Problem | Gallup Historical Trends

@palasta said:

The danger of ideological BS in your simple minds. The world is oversimplified and the larger picture, the real issue, completely eludes you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FixVzxAitDY

Are you saying population crash is going to happen because of race and gender swaps in fictional media?

That is very odd. Unless that's not what you meant and just went wildly off-topic and got mad at me for not mentioning a completely off-topic thing like a population collapse.

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#10  Edited By Robertos
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@sargentd said:

Case should be thrown out,

This is an op-ed in video format by a confirmed fake news blogger who was so dumb he had to drop out of school in the 5th grade. I wouldn't eat his flipped burgers, much less his legal opinion. This is worse than Alex Jones, you are insulting the intelligence of everyone here including yourself.

Be better. No more bald posts.

@sargentd said:

prosecution failed to show any evidence of the crime alleged.

This is objectively false.

Donald Trump trial evidence: See photos, notes and books shown to jury (usatoday.com)

‘Pay With Cash:’ The Evidence Against Trump at Hush Money Trial - Bloomberg

Please sarge, a quick google search shows that almost any video you post is false on a pure reality based level.

@ogvampire said:

but as to your remark, yes, let's just ignore the fake invoices and checks signed by Trump himself. The Deep State did all that.

I think sarge is larping.