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[QUOTE="famunda666"]

I used to like both. Actually really liked the GTA 4 expansions way better than the main game it self. The main game in GTA 4 was butchered in favor of a shorter more serious yet casual experience, as where SR is what GTA used to be, over the top fun! Awesome customization etc. I agree they are 2 different games these days but GTA used to be what Saints Row is today.

Saints Row brings back fond memories of playing GTA San Andreas and the games before that. GTA 4 just went in the wrong Direction for a lot of people in my opinion. its ok to like both, a lot of us just don't. A lot of people like the more serious tones of GTA 4 too and hate Saints row and view it as a GTA abortion.

For me it is impossible to like both anymore, Saints Row has improved so vastly on what I feel GTA should be that there is just no reason to own GTA anymore. I believe Saints Row out clas-ses it in every way. A crime game should be fun over the top crazyness, For me if i want serious story driven play I will play Heavy Rain, Alan Wake, or the mass effect series. Just my thoughts on it.

famunda666

That's clas-sy alright!:

Yup sure is! Some times a ho needs to be slapped!

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] Sure it is. You care what happens to them when they take certain actions to progress through the plot.Chutebox

Anybody can care about any character, so by your definition, any story could be character driven. But we know that there are certain stories that are character driven and certain ones that aren't. Personally, I couldn't care less about UC's characters as I found them to be rather cookie cutter, so again, by your logic, it would be character-driven to you but not character-driven to me. That doesn't make sense to me.

A story being character driven depends ulitimately on how important character motivation, character development, and the way in which characters shape events, is to any given story.

The kind of movies that UC tries to emulate are not really character driven. They are more action-driven.

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="TrapJak"]Did you play the game...?

Chutebox

[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

Honestly, I thought the 360 would have shipped more than 1.7 million consoles.

Microsoft's console once again seems to be ruling the United States but not much anywhere else. Combined NPD numbers for April (297K) +May (270K) + June (507K) already equals about 1.1 million units sold. How could overseas sales be so low?

planbfreak4eva

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

Right. Big release games adding so called "support" for Kinect. Kinect is virually on life support. Microsoft is scrambling to think of how many ways they can use it in their core games without being a drawback to the hardcore gameplay. It's great for the Cookie Monster, bad for the core gamer.

Chris_Williams

You don't have a kinect yet your defending it? why? okay, have you tried to the kinect once?

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Um Ya, cause this will save Kinect :lol:

dream431ca

Right. Big release games adding so called "support" for Kinect. Kinect is virually on life support. Microsoft is scrambling to think of how many ways they can use it in their core games without being a drawback to the hardcore gameplay. It's great for the Cookie Monster, bad for the core gamer.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

That is your opinion. I thought the Ghost recon weapon modding was pretty cool. The squad commands in Mass Effect would also make things much faster and easier in all but the hard fights.

LegatoSkyheart

I actually think the WiiU would be great for the Weapon Modding and stuff. With that Tablet Controller a lot of things are possible.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Um Ya, cause this will save Kinect :lol:

NoodleFighter

Ghost Recon demonstration is trash, so is Mass Effect 3 really voice commands? You don't need kinect to do that.

Um Ya, cause this will save Kinect :lol:

dream431ca