@djpetitte add @ZedThePlatypus to that list has well

@hp2110 @shadowhunter0 Sony is planning to use the cloud system in completely different way than M$ is can't remember what it is though

@ZedThePlatypus this just proves you no nothing about the ps4 and fyi I hardly lag online and I get everything I want plus allot more with it

@ZOD777 @Elann2008 @MAXAM999 actually it isn't even a year it will only last until November

@freedom01 but unlike xbl the online gaming is part of ps+ which is more than worth it now and guess what you can still use all third party apps without it unlike xbl

why would I pay $500 for something that spies on me

@hp2110 @shadowhunter0 well it it going to have that clould thing forgot what it was called a new interface the ability to stream stuff to ustream and edit and post videos (which the announced months before M$ did) that is all that I can think of off the top of my hand and I know there are more than that

@hp2110 yeah you aren't 100% informed and I'm to tired too list all the new features and stuff that the ps4 will have also the ps4 is about 2 times has powerful has the xbone

no with MS indie developer need a publisher to plublish their game on the 360 and now the xb1 but with Sony they don't and also Sony has been very indie friendly for a very long time they are just pushing it most harder then time around

@arqe @shadowhunter0 @Lhomity I still say it sucks that you have to pay for it but at least Sony made it part of ps+ so you are getting way more than just paying to play games online