@louixiii: it could have been hit or miss i will give you that but after the truly first game that was JUNK the pair have been working with the game makers....that is why the last one was so good.....they went to the studio making the game at least 3 times a week to see what they were doing with the game.....because of that we got a great.....im hopping for more of the same....

wow MS is just giving them away now.......

@walidras: i beat money you did not spend 600 bucks on a case....

what are they smoking???? 600 for that case is stupid......

@louixiii: i will wait until its 20 bucks.....but im still getting it as it comes with all the DLC i never got to play

@xantufrog: it depends.....on console their would be no reason to get them again but on PC and all the problems of the first windows live store a lot of people on PC can not play these games even when they paid for them......i just hope its on steam this time to get rid of all that BS.....on top of it i never got any of the DLC for the second and third one.....im buying it just for the DLC when its 20 bucks or less.....

@Paulf001: i have this funny feeling its a bethal move.....get PC to make DLC and mods and then sell them to console players....

@FallenOneX: you have been able to run almost any thing for years with 8gb.....now a lot of the newer games at starting to use more.....it really depends on the monitor.....the higher the resolution the more memory your going to want both on the mother and in Vram.....

@ECH71: yeah im getting all kinda of problems from 10 in general......it ran great for the first month and then went to hell after that.....

so MS wants people in the PC modding groups to make maps for them???