@MBirdy88: I never said anything was "better", it's the PC users who claim that they're better, not console users. If you claim you're better, you better have good reasons.

I said was that it conservative, by definition, to retain hardware configurations first popularized when Reagan was POTUS. It may be your preferred method, but it cannot be called cutting edge and must be called conservative.

I'm not interested in what's better, and I never said anything was better or worse. You seem to very worried about "better" as you wrote it four times in capitals, which makes you seem like you've taken personal offence.

I don't accept your vague definition of "legacy" and the subsequent weird attempts to show that K&M can't be replaced - which, by the way, fulfill the last part of your definition perfectly.

Your attempts to change the topic on to console controllers is immaterial as well. Nobody is claiming that they are superior, nor do consoles call themselves the "master race" etc., so the comparison is a distraction.

Also, you took legacy as pejorative description - it isn't. If it works, fine. But you may not call it cutting edge and you can call conservative.

@Johnny-n-Roger:

Whatever the future is, it can't be described as keyboard and mouse control as it is already a legacy method.

It's a bit of a niche title. The black and white graphics were courageous and artistic but it must have hurt sales.

@n64dd: It doesn't suck, it just doesn't change. It only moves forward in technical aspects. It is a conservative platform where the favoured control method is still a workaround i.e. keyboard and mouse.

I'm not too interested in Bayonetta but it's good to see that it's available. Also, it's almost unanimously praised.

Challenge is the most important thing. What else will keep you coming back? Graphics age, and so "immersion" (whatever that is) needs top be updated constantly, but you never hear that challenge has been left behind by technology.

PC is not a good measure for pure gaming trends as the user base are not all people who have gone out of their way to by gaming hardware per se. It's not clear how many would play a PC game if they didn't already own the system. This is not true for Xbox, PS4, Switch etc.

I think achievements are mostly benign. They can tick off things in the game that you would do anyway. But when they design an achievement that extends the gameplay beyond the natural play-time, then I think they are unnecessary and I imagine most people aren't sucked in to playing longer than usual.

@hawkeye44: Then you must consider games like The Order to be the height of gaming. And if you don't, what are your reasons?