Well I'm still enjoying it and I know some others that are as well. I get this feeling that in order to fit in here, I'd have to lie and shit on the game or something.

I understand that a lot don't like it, and justifiably so when they had high expectations going in. Especially those that fall for hype. The devs lied about the content, and that's wrong. But some of us didn't fall for the hype and knew what to expect going in.

It's like a hive mind here...

NFL 2K is aces.

Both.

These mid-gen upgrades seem like a scam to me. Not having any exclusives to themselves and being only slightly more powerful is nothing short of a gimmick.

Competition is good for the console market. I wish Sega was still part of it as well.

I don't have a 4k tv and I'm not interested in VR, so I don't want a Scorpio or a Neo.

I'm ready.

Thing has a 18+ gig update! Oh well, guess I'll start it tomorrow. :(

Do people hate it because it was hyped, or because it's on Playstation and not Xbox?

Same. Probably because I didn't go in expecting it to be the best game ever.