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#1  Edited By TheGreatGeneral
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I did not see your reply thats why I reply just now.

@rictshard said:

I will not go into the list wars of ps+ games because its too one sided and you are deflecting from my point.

Nice website. Here is the xbl part. I didnt count the issues but its does not look like its any better.

https://downdetector.com/status/xbox-live/archive

The argument is weather Xbox Live is better than PSN, you tried to counter that point with Playstation Plus even though

1. The games this past year have been lackluster, at least Xbox Live is giving you retail games with Games with Gold, so far I've gotten Halo Reach, Dishonored, Viva Pinata, Darksiders 2 and a few other games.

2. You lose the games if you lose your PS+ Membership, even if I canceled Gold I'd still be playing those games I have on my hard drive

1. Maybe for 360, but for the xbone gwg is just pathetic and if we take PS3 into the race its nowhere close.

2. You lose them now too, MS changed that a few months ago while still providing neither more or better games.

3. PS+ covers 3 platforms with 2 games each every month gwg only 2 and they got only 1 game for xbone (Volkarr or something)

4. December and January have retail games in PS+

5. PS+ games are higher rated.

6. Some PS+ games are day 1 games like velocity X just released and not months or years old.

@rictshard said:
I counted, Xbox Live went down 26 times since October 1st, PSN has gone down about 50. Also from what I saw Xbox Live on average would go down for 1 or 2 hours, Playstation Network anywhere from 1-6 hours on average. That's not even including the major outages or nigh daily maintenance.

Like I said I didnt count or looked too hard into the list, so I caint say if you counted right or not. But lets assume you are right with the count. This is one month which is not representive for the whole service. Im not even denying that PS+ had more outages this year.

@rictshard said:

The majority of Playstation games may be. Microsoft invested in a 300k server center and so far

Master Chief Collection = Dedicated servers

Forza Horizon 2 = Dedicated Servers

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/131102-forza-horizon-2-review

Sunset Overdrive = Dedicated Servers

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/sunset-overdrive-multiplayer-was-always-going-to-be-its-own-thing

Killer Instinct = Dedicated Servers

http://www.gameplanet.com.au/xbox-one/reviews/g52a1450a3780d/Killer-Instinct-review/

Titanfall = Dedicated Servers

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-one-cloud-servers-absolutely-essential-to-titanfall/1100-6418222/

No, the majorty of games, multi or exclusive.

So every exclusive or "exclusive" game like titanfall has dedis on xbox. Good but in Killer Instincts situation p2p would be a better networking method for two player games like fighting games than dedis because you would connect to the other console directly instead of going trought a server.

But my original question was actually if all games on xbox use dedis, which is not the case because COD run of Activions servers and BF on EAs servers in both networks. But MS was all about "ALL GAMES HAVE DEDIS" which they used as a marketing strategy. Not to mention that Sony used dedis in the past and will use them in the future as well if needed.

KZ SF MP for example is not simple P2P but a hybride.

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2013/10/21/killzone-shadow-fall-will-use-dedicated-multiplayer-servers.aspx

@rictshard said:

Nope, anytime I want to look at my achievements on Xbox 360 or Xbox One they are nigh instant, last week I beat KH 1.5 in proud mode, went to check the trophies, and it had to sync which takes anywhere from 30 seconds to a few minutes, just to check freaking trophies.

Also your achievements are saved to your Live account, So even if your Xbox blows up you retain them.

No that seems to be the standard consensus, that PSN does have slow download times. Same internet connection and I get faster download times on my 360 and Xbox One than my Sony systems.

Judging by your lackluster knowledge it's pretty obvious that you've had limited exposure to Live, which is fine and dandy but you aren't in any position to be discussing what's a better service.

That was a rethorical question your archivments need to be synched on xbox too so I didnt get why you put that up as a negative and its a lot faster on PS4 than you described.

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Thats the whole problem I have with people that go on and on with their personal experience or like you just did with some "consensus". You say 30 seconds to 1 minute which is not true. It took 5 seconds to open the trophies and 5 to 6 seconds to sync them manually in the vid and even then its no proof.

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@princeofshapeir said:

Wow, that's not what I'm implying at all. I'm saying there are no alternative platforms to play either Super Smash Bros. for Wii U or the Master Chief Collection on, besides the respective platforms they're exclusive to. And these games have new, exclusive content to make it clear that they're unique. The Far Cry 4 thing has nothing to do with anything; I'm not saying multiplats which are the same game content-wise across several platforms are suddenly exclusive based on which platform you own, so I don't understand why you brought it up.

Super Smash Bros. for Wii U is exclusive to Wii U. The Master Chief Collection is exclusive to XB1. Period. You can't play these games on any other platform. You can't walk into GameStop and ask for the 3DS version of Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and the Xbox 360 version of The Master Chief Collection.

Okay, you made it a little clearer but I have never met anyone with that kind of perspective. But why are you stoping there? Lets divide exclusivity to technical terms like 1080p or 60fps. PS4 has the exclusivity of the 1080p and dynamic Weather version of MGS Ground Zeroes. Its absurd. You want to extent the line when there is no need for that at all.

You had no problem to identify LPB3 as a multiplat in the OP. So why are you trying so hard to find some kind of reasoning to make the other games look more exclusive? Do you see both versions of The Last of Us as exclusive too?

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@thegreatgeneral said:

How is the combat system in shovel knight? Do you only jump on enemies or can you attack them like in castlevania?

Yeah, you can "pounce" on them, much like Ducktales, or just straight up hit them with your shovel. There's magic, too. I can shoot fireballs, for example.

Cool, hoped for more castlevania style gameplay but will look into it.

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@freedomfreak:
How is the combat system in shovel knight? Do you only jump on enemies or can you attack them like in castlevania?

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Dark Souls 2

Not as good as the first two but still (one of) the best game this year and rewarding non the least.

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@princeofshapeir said:

@thegreatgeneral: Sony and Microsoft never claimed that Titanfall or Destiny were only playable on their console. Neither of those games are different bettween platforms with regards to content.

Im just gonna repeat myself here. Advertisment does not matter.

@princeofshapeir said:

If I don't have a Wii U I cannot play the game labeled "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U" anywhere else. If I don't have a 3DS I can't play the game labeled "Super Smash Bros. for 3DS" anywhere else. If I don't have an XB1 I can play the game labeled "Titanfall" on my PC; if I don't have a PS4 I can play the game labeled "Destiny" on my XB1.

"If I dont own a 360, PS3, Xbone, PS4 or PC, I cant play Far Cry 4, but if I own PS4 I can play it so it PS4 exclusive." It does not work like that.

Why are you guys trying to spin established vocabulary? Exclusive is Exclusive and Mulitplat is Multiplat.

Edit: With that definition, every game is exclusive other than getting emulated.

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@double_a73 said:

@thegreatgeneral: In Far Cry 3 the story was VERY mediocre, but gunplay was a blast which is making me lean towards getting 4.

Yeah, the only thing thats off putting is that its looks very samey. Not a day 1 from me btw.

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@princeofshapeir said:

I don't understand how people can say SSB Wii U and MCC aren't exclusive.

It's simple: you don't see SSB Wii U or the MCC being advertised for different platforms. You do see LittleBigPlanet 3 being advertised for PS3/PS4 because it's the same exact game, minus graphical differences and framerate.

If you want to be pedantic, yes: SSB4 is multiplat, but SSB for Wii U is Wii U exclusive.

MS (and lemmings) advertised Titanfall as exclusive and Sony Destiny (not really but still) as exclusive. Advertisment means nothing.

"If you want to be pedantic, yes: SSB4 is multiplat, but SSB for Wii U is Wii U exclusive."

I loled, the same thing said some MS executive on twitter about minecraft when the PS4 version got announced.

Maybe Sony should advertise 1080p exclusivity*

* in the console space.

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@double_a73 said:

@thegreatgeneral: I'm debating about Far Cry. I haven't been huge in to the series. And outside it and DA, all we have as another COD and another AC.

I'm not gonna lie though. A small part of me dies every time I see a trailer for SSO and I know I won't be playing it anytime soon.

Far Cry 3 was not bad other than the cringeworthy murica storyline. Gunplay was solid and travesal pretty cool. Soundtrack was not bad either, especially the main theme. But when you are not that interested in the current games you should takle you backlog. Do you not enjoy some older games?

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@freedomfreak said:
@aroxx_ab said:

Killzone, Knack, Infamous is exclusives you can play

Hey, that guy enjoyed Ryse so he cant complain.