I still don't understand the term "console exclusive". Does that mean "exclusive to consoles?".

Lethargika

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[QUOTE="Cait__Sith"]No, I don't care about the PS3/360 stuff, you guys have it all wrong to you there is only 'left' and 'right', but I'm 'up.' Basically I've had it wiht 360 fanboys forgeting abotu PC and claiming exclusive even though the game is not.Cait__Sith

EDIT and again its the PS3 fanboys who will have you believe those games don't exist. I don't know what you're basing this off, do you have any links? I think you might have got your forums confused.

[QUOTE="thew13"]

Well your wrong - Exclusive means excluding something. It can mean only one thing has it it but doesn't have to mean that. An exclusive club for example doesn't have just one member, but it excludes some people, which makes it exclusive. A perfect example is the TV use of network exclusive for a movie - it's been on cable, DVD, but it's only on free TV on NBC, it is called a network exclusive.

And you are right about calling soemthing a 360 exclusive. I am talking about the term 'console-exclusive' which deosn't exist in SW but does in the real world. You seem to think SW's rule on the term applies to everywhere else. I am just disputing that part of of your argument.

washd123

exactly! an exclusive club means only the members of that club.

meaning it excludes ALL OTHERS. the club in question would be the 360. if it doesnt belong to the club that is the 360 its not a 360 exclusive.

and console exclusive exists, its just misused here. just like above saying console exclusive means it only belongs to the consoles, or the club that is the consoles. it doesnt mean that its only on the 360 according to the consoles. thats just wrong.

seriously i thought itd be simple but obviously everyone here and in the industry is just ignorant.

[QUOTE="thew13"] Exclusive comes from exclude not include. So if something/someone is excluded from being a member of it than that thing is exclusive. If you want to use the literal meaning of the word you are wrong. In SW your definition fits, but the industry doesn't care about SW. washd123

if i use the literal use of the word then im right. its really not that hard. excluding does not mean exclusive and exclusive does not mean excluding.

saying something is a 360 exclsuive means it can only be found on the 360. just like calling a furby a toy r us exclusive means it can only be found at toys r us. if it can be found any where else its not exclusive to those things

its seriously not that hard to comprehend. it means its excluding ALL other things aside from whats listed before the word exclusive. not just whats at hand, not just what you care about.

And you are right about calling soemthing a 360 exclusive. I am talking about the term 'console-exclusive' which deosn't exist in SW but does in the real world. You seem to think SW's rule on the term applies to everywhere else. I am just disputing that part of of your argument.

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

It's an industry standard term. The only reason it isn't allowed here is because the mods don't like it for whatever reason and they are slow to adjust with the times, just like dl games aren't allowed in score comparisons.

washd123

so then the industry is stupid then? exclusive has one set meaning and usage. it cant be twisted. any other use of it is just ignorant.

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[QUOTE="Aku101"]

First, I am not a troll and second I am correct. The loser in chess is determined on who makes the most mistakes. It's not hard at all to move a piece to another square it requires no skill to do that. And the thinking portion of chess is just DECEPTION. It requires no skill to deceive your opponent because the opponent was not able to see through it. Chess requires zero skill it's just a giant mind-game based on deceit.

Aku101

Had he been more skilled, he might have been able to :o

Its all a gamble. You gamble that your opponent can't see through your ploy and you rely on that to win. That's all that there is in chess. It's not about skill it's just about analyzing the board and seeing what the most logical option is, anything that betrays that logic is obviously a deception. :)

[QUOTE="sam_nintendo"][QUOTE="Aku101"]

Exactly, turn-based games require no skill. It doesn't require the player to think fast or react fast at all.

Aku101

Chess doesn't require skill. There is nothing about chess that requires skill. You win in chess because your opponent made a mistake not because you made a genius move.

[QUOTE="thew13"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] Mariah Carey makes garbage music, LoL. The point is that people will buy anything. If you dress up a piece of poop and market it properly, somebody, somewhere, would probably buy it. That has no bearing on the value of the product whatsoever.Ryan_Som

That's...not entirely correct. Value is a construct based upon the amount you pay versus the amount you get. It's also based upon what corporations think they can get away with charging. Inflation affects these things as well. On top of the old supply and demand model.

Lets say Microsoft decides to charge $5 more a year for their service. You gladly oblige. I mean, hey, what's $5? The service is worth it. A year from that, it goes up $10. You say, "Well, you gotta pay for the best."

Fast forward a few years down the road and we're in a new console generation where people have agreed to pay an extra $100 for a glorified unlock key to use the second half of their games. People jumped on Capcom and others for charging for unlock keys for on-disc content. Explain to me how this is any different.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Brownesque"] People listen to Mariah Carey, what's your point?Brownesque

People like Mariah Carey, and think her music is worth the money. I have no clue what you are trying to get at with that comparison.

[QUOTE="thew13"]Then don't use it - problem solved. Answer me this - how does an optional function make something worse than something without the same function?Vandalvideo