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#1 tmorri603
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@jcrame10: I see you are still not doing any research. GTA was released on the PS1 and PC at the same time with a Game Boy release later all versions in 1997. The first Xbox came out in 11/2001; this is 4 years later. The only reason that GTA III, Vice City, and San Andreas did not come out on the Xbox at the same time as the PS2 version is because of the exclusive deal that had in place that was signed in 2001. It is the same thing you are getting on MS about so it is valid. Tomb Raider was not always multiplat. After, the first Tomb Raider, Sony decided that they did not want the Saturn to have the series anymore so here comes an exclusive deal that kept it on the PS. It is kind of ironic that they same thing they did to Sega all those years ago is being done to them. Karma is a you know what.

You don't have to believe me about Sunset Overdrive. I have read the fact and know the story behind the game. Read these facts: Naughty Dog founded in 1984 bought by Sony in 2001. They started long before Sony entered the market: Sucker Punch founded in 1997 in the roots of MS then went independent. There first game was on the N64 in 1999: Insomniac founded in 1994. This developer is the only one that stayed independent and was with Sony from the start. I will give you that Sony helped them succeed.

Where did I say that the exclusives on the were 3rd party? Here it is as basic as I can make it. A developer that makes games for one company but is not owned by them is commonly called a 2nd party developers. They make games for one company but are still independent. They could make games for other platforms but choose not to do that. What Sony has done with a lot of them is buy the company when they see that it is worth the money to invest in doing it. This is how Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog and other came to be Sony owned. MS and Sony both do this because they don't come from a gaming background where they have internal game development like Nintendo has.

Please do us both a favor and do some research. This post is better than the first but I was still able to shoot holes in it.

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@jcrame10 said:

It's bad enough they had to pay a huge sum of money to get exclusive deals with Insomniac and Sunset Overdrive., who has always been a PS developer and was groomed by Sony since the dawn of the original Playstation and Disruptor/Spyro The Dragon series.

Now, they're signing exclusive deals with large third party titles for a multiplat series (which, of course started and was successful on PS1 and made the Tomb Raider/Core Design/Square Enix names what they are today....well...minus Core..)

Hey Microsoft!!! How about you do the honest thing (like your competition does) and create your own companies, partnerships and IPs without pissing off fans of existing ones. Maybe if you weren't lazy you could find some real talent who could think of brand new, creative IPs that might make me actually respect your brand and company.

Seriously, Xbox only ever exists for two reasons: first person shooters and online gaming. You'll never have the diversity that Nintendo and Sony have and it's a damn shame.

Also, a little off topic..but why would Microsoft flat out BUY Gears and Halo instead of working out a contract for Bungie and Epic? Xbone would be serious trouble for PS4 had this happened and Destiny was exclusively made for Xbone. Halo and Gears will eventually die off or at least go to crap like most franchises overtime. It's like if Sony had purchased Crash Bandicoot instead of actually going into contract with Naughty Dog. Where would they be now? Sitting with a 1990's platformer. They're successful because they partnered with the company, not the franchises.

Let me go through your post paragraph at a time. If you had seen or done any research you would know that MS did not pay Insomniac any money to make Sunset Overdrive exclusive. Insomniac is not owned by Sony and in a standard publisher and developer contract with Sony; they own the rights to the IP. Insomniac was tired of losing all rights to the games they make to Sony and Sony would not budge from this. This is when they turned to MS. MS is publishing the game but Insomniac has 100% control over the game.

Second and third paragraph. Yes, MS did pay to have to have the next Tomb Raider exclusive but this is not dishonest. Sony did the same with Grand Thief Auto. When the game was in development for the PS2, Sony immediately made a contract to make the game exclusive to their systems. This contract ran for years until about a year after San Andreas was out. Then the port the 3 games to the Xbox. I could tell some other stories that Sony has done that are not illegal but not honest in the least. Also, Sony brought most of the companies that they own now. The developer makes a hit game and they buy them.

Fourth paragraph. MS has one first person shooter that they own and that is Halo. Sony has 2 that is Resistance and Kill Zone. All other FPS comes from 3rd party developers and most of them have been on a PS as well so that shoots that out of the water. I will agree that MS is for great online gaming. Sony is trying so hard to get the level of live it makes me laugh. You talking about Nintendo and diversity shows how much hate you have for MS. Nintendo is has the least divers system out of the 3 companies.

The reason that MS bought Gears is Epic did not want to make any more games in the series and sold the rights to MS. MS owns the Halo franchise. This happened when the brought Bungie in 2000. Bungie, also, did not want to make Halo games and wanted to be independent again. MS was kind enough to give them their wish. All IP's will die out sooner or later. That is the way of the world: nothing last forever.

The fact that you came on a Xbox forum with a lot of hate and no facts is the biggest dame same of all.

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@nyc05 said:

Considering the Xbox One has several 1080p games out and many more coming out, I'd say you're a bit misinformed on its current capabilities.

It is sad that some owners of Xbox don't know this. Just read some of the post. Forza was 1080p out of the gate. Yes, we well see a lot more before the end of the year and beyond. We just need to give developers time to learn the system. Keep in mind that the best games are not at the beginning of a systems life cycle but in the middle and near the end.

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I see the days of split screen are over. Nintendo is the only system I see that uses split screen on a regular basis. I have not seen or heard of games that use split screen from MS and Sony in a long time. One of the drawbacks of split screen is that it takes a hit in processing power to do it. If you have the game as an online feature, you don't have to worry that.

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I agree with most of the post on here. MS is doing a excellent job with exclusives. Despite that, the PS4 is still outselling the Xbox One even with the Xbox One having the superior exclusives and more of them. The reason for this is they have a perception problem. So many people think that the Xbox One is so inferior that you should not waste you time with it. I think MS has to end this thought by investing in great games that run at 1080p at 60fps and put to rest this "too weak" crap. They did a goo thing by freeing up that power that was just for Kinect to developers. They need to make sure that their 3rd party games are at the same resolution as the PS4 games. Also, I think they need to get some platforms out like a sequel to Conker and proper Banjo & Kazooie game. I know that platforms are not in style but I think if you give Rare a chance and time; they can become the Rare of old.

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Right now, I would say no because the 360's game library is so large with lots of games over all types. Now, this may change by this holiday. The Xbox one will be a year old and some of the best games of the year will be making its way to the system. Also, you might get some sweet deals this holiday.

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@clr84651 said:

I wouldn't get too excited. Japan is not prone to buy Xbox a lot.

I would have to agree with you on this. The first Xbox was a disaster in Japan and the 360 didn't do any better. I do see being number 1 on the best seller chart in Japan is good but, like you, I am not getting excited. It is good that it is on this list because the first Xbox and the 360 would not have been on the best seller chart if you put both their pre-order launches together. The thing that will make this work is how it sells after launch. Will sales fall flat or be steady in the months ahead? I hope this a sign of good things to come but I would not put no money on it.

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I don't know why any developer has never even thought about this but RTS's would be great on Kinect. You could use your had like a mouse and the voice control could be use for setting up unit groups and going to other parts of the map real fast. There are other things you could do with RTS's but this is the basics. You can use it on rail shooters. You can use your hand like a gun or get some cheap plastic gun for a reference point. When you pick up a weapon, you just shout out the name like "shotgun" and you character pulls out a shotgun ready to use. There are other thing that developers never bothered to think about, not even MS, that could make Kinect worthwhile. Does only one else think these ideas have potential?

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Nice video by the way. The only thing that I see as this being bad is for MS. They wanted Kinect to be a part of the Xbox experience but with it not being a bundle with the console, I see it being like the PS Move. A waste of them. One thing to keep in mind, developers were doing little to nothing with it, but if it does get some great games that work with it you still have over 3 million Kinects bundled with a console out there.

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I am not concerned because this systems have not been out a year. As systems age, the games get better looking. There is something that we all need to ask ourselves; will the game play be any different on Xbox One than PS4? The answer is no. If the power that the Xbox One has starts to effects game play then you have something the worry about. No matter what system you get It on, you will have the same game play.