Bioware makes RPGs, but Neverwinter Nights doesn't have many similarities to KOTOR. Bungie made Marathon, which was a FPS, and when they made Halo, it was very different from their Marathon games. But Tetris Attack and Pokemon Puzzle League, while not the same franchise, use the exact same gameplay mechanics, so one is the other's sequel.

It's easy to overreach with this reasoning, but I think the premise is sound.

Crysis is the sequel to Far Cry... at least, the real Far Cry on PC. In fact, Crytek 2 is the engine sequel to Crytek.

Don't stretch it to the point of absurdity, and don't get so uptight about it. Mass Effect looks like a great game, but trying to pretend it's nothing like KOTOR is the only *real* stretch I see here. For someone who has played, and enjoyed, KOTOR and KOTOR II, the gameplay will be quite similar. They're not abandoning what they know works.

For it to a be sequel it would have to be a continuation of a previous story. Your argument fails on your usage of the word sequal, which is not objective.

All of your points come down to a matter of opinion really. I rarely run into people i have neg repped, only in the occurance that there are few people online at the time, something that happens during my late night sessions off SVR 2007.

If your not the type of person who interested in not only an solid, unified online structure but a community fostering entity, than I can see why you dislike live. I mean there have been many instances when I have chatted with family members and close friends on the 360 while playing seperate online games, watching movies or other task. Its just the level on connectivity through all those task that prove superior on live. For what you seem to need, just bare online multiplayer, free is fine. However, I really think its silly to complain about the price which, I mean 50 dollars a year and what have you sacraficed??? 12 number ones at Mickie D's....not anything budget killing to even most middle schoolers.

same here..keep in mind that lair is in alpha build..so when the game done its goin to look more amazing then the video we see today..im waiting for uncharted, ratchet and clank, heavenly sword. and most important MGS4!!! and Final Fantasy VIII and Versus!! and dont forget the new team ico game !! if they take advantage of the ps3 cell or rsx all the games on the PS3 will be bad ass!!elementz28

Now I'll admit, that video impressed the heck out of me and im a XBOX 360 owner. However, to assume that because it is in Alpha that it will look even better is not a good philosophy. Bungie took the gameplay first and then graphics later stance but most developers do the graphics and downgrade as it interferes with the gameplay. It should look great but i'll take the wait and see approach. 

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[QUOTE="-Maddog-"]Its got 6 months b4 release and there still on a Really old engine??? Whats going on??? You would think by now it would have a near final look. What the heII have they been doing all this time. -Maddog-

Ummm... have you been reading any of the posts?? ITS A PLACEHOLDER! wow... people now a days are just getting dumber and dumber...

EDIT: and also bungie announced that the beta version will look alot better so im guessing that it's gonna be running on the Halo 3 engine

lol you probably have know idea what your talking about...sit down. Placeholders at this stage??? What happen to the realtime trailer they showed at E3 2006 which is OLD and looked amazing..claiming this is how the game will look like...why arn't we seeing those visuals now if it was possible then???

You lemmings are dumber and dumber by the minute..beleive all sorts of BS.

See this is the type of stuff I feel the need to comment on, what about you makes you so superior that you can come on a forum and make some condescending, prickish remark like that? Oh  yeah and by the way, it has been confirmed countless times that the footage that we are seeing is taken from Alpha stage months ago. Not indicitive of the current state of the game, but how it was MONTHS ago.

Do i know how good the game will look, no I don't. But based simply on their track record I do believe that Halo 3 will look amazing by release time. I fancy this development approach that the teams at Forza and for Halo have taken, they are getting the gameplay right and then focusing on the graphics at the end. Seems to me as if the have their priorities straight,nothing wrong with that. 

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I had them running at the same time on 2 HDTV's.

Got to hand it to Lems Shivering Isles looks Better but now by much.

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Since the PS3 has RAM limitations, if Shivering Isles does come out for PS3, it will have to be on a disc, which is why it will look worse than Oblivion did on the 360 BEFORE it got the update.

It that why, epicgames said ps3 couldnt handle gears of? war? is that why the darkness confirmed by dev 360 version will have better textures because of more memory usable? the only thing more powerful in ps3 is the cell and that's not even a gaming focused cpu, it's mainly multimedia, 360 cpu is gaming, plus xbox360 cpu can be used for processing physics and gpu, ps3 can only use the cell for physics.

overall xbox360 is more powerful, ps3 has more peak on paper performance, but in real world xbox360 is more powerful.