no, the Xbox360 was all about indie games along with their big studio releases last gen. Xbox gamers love indies.

Cows though, they bashed the hell out of the XB360's indie games last gen. They even went as far to say they didn't count towards anything because they were indie games and not big studio games lol. Cows were very anti-indie last gen (except when Journey came out hypocritically). but now, with the ps4 using a ton of indie games as padding for their mediocre big studio games...a very hypocritical 180 has taken place here.

so of course Xbox users, and others, gave cows a hard time when they try to use indies as a selling point for the ps4. Because they were supposedly so against them counting for anything last gen and they're being total hypocrites. That's why cows get grief about indie games and ps4.

man, that took some time...a lot of games there.

@charizard1605: lol, the war is over? 1.5 years into the generation? i guess the ps3 making its comeback to tie last gen after being down roughly 8 million didn't happen.

@bigboss5ak said:Been PC gaming the past couple years time to pick up a console tomorrow. Looking at the Xbox mainly for halo, gonna grab that MCC also. Anything I should know before I purchase one??

they released a patch for MCC yesterday that seems to have fixed the matchmaking problems. people are saying its taking less than a minute now to form groups and get into games. so you shouldn't have any real problems with the game. enjoy your purchase bud,,,it really is a great console.

you lost a bet?

i haven't really played any souls games myself...the furthest i've gotten is leaving the fortress i was captive in in the first, well second, one. I Just lost interest after that and got my XB1. My loss...i heard they're good games. And Bloodborne looks like its going to be crazy. Hope it turns out how you want.

now see, that makes me feel good. Thank you, you amazing wonderful WONDERFUL squirrel :) Hey, love's allrrriigghhttt!

i like and use a quite a few of the apps myself...espn, HBOgo, Netflix, youtube, huluplus, twitch, bleacher report, GoPro is interesting, Vine, nfl app, Amazon, upload studio, one drive, Pandora...they just added an IGN app Tuesday. The E-Sports League app i finally tried out the other day seems really cool for gamers. I don't know...i don't see why you don't feel the need for ANY of them. They add a lot to the console in my opinion. Especially when snapped.

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yea, i've heard that before. so you feel From Software's are getting worst?

bingo!

cows and the like start trashing XB1 games as soon as they're announced at E3, or wherever. and proceed onward until the sequel, unless it goes multiplat. and you're here now trying to rationalize why people should leave this game alone a week after its release O_o??

and i'm not sure what "new" thing The Order tried to do. besides charging full price for a 7 hour prologue.