A really goood Star Wars game for the console would be awesome. But you know what pops Microsofts greedy little knuckles? That kinect game they are working on, where to get from one spot to the next, you put your arms behind you like tinkerbell. Uhmmm... genius's the lot of them...can't get kinect - the game - and the controller to work in a reasonable fashion. Good grief just give me a controller in hand if that's your plan for running from one spot to the next; forget kinect ever existed.

And lets not forget their vision for Ghost Recon: To shoot, just open your palm in front of you. To stop shooting, just close your palm. LMAO. Might as well put a mic on ya and yell, "pew pew pew, your dead! I got ya!" seeing as how they don't intend to put some peripheral device in your hand, like say, a light gun. For the life of me, I can only envision idiotlets having fun opening his palm to shoot, closing his palm to stop shooting.

Okay, I ranted. I hope some developer who I have not heard about yet is indeed making great games in the traditions of Bioware. But at this time, I've seen nothing of the likes on the horizon.

Not that I want to make this a long thread but Star Trek Online was going to the be on the 360 along with the PC. Having hindsight, we were spared that POS due to some disagreement between Cryptic and Microsoft.

And finally, Phantasy Star Online was on the 360, PS2, and PC. Although the content was shallow and the developers petered out in the end, the fact that the 360 had built in mic made the 360 version the funnest game to play.

In answer to the threads question? At this time Microsoft is drilling every developer to use the kinect in their game, no matter the stupid factor. Apparently developers are listening. And that is why you won't see a triple A developer give Microsoft the time of day.

I'm not going to pretend I'm smart enough to hyperlink this and that website. But I'll tell you, my half hearted attempt to keep updating this thread is a heap of a lot better then Microsofts abundance of cheer and good will towards their customers. C'Mon Man; Mortal Combat Season Pass??? That's the best you got for us Xbox live customers?

It's like Microsoft getting invited to the party and they show up with a bottle opener for everyone to use. LAMO.

Anyway, as long as I'm updating the game sale list, and I'm doing it accurately, why would anyone who regularly goes here to the GS forums need to also go to that lamo microsoft site?

On the other hand, thanks for informing us of another microsoft information site(I believe you were sincerely helpful). I went there and found out there might be a leaked list of games. Now that's a list I would like a link to.

:;;

Just go to this URL every time you want to see the latest deal.:

http://majornelson.com/

balfe1990

Today's daily deal is...

Deadliest Warrior: Legends - a fighting game - Full Game = 400 points

Joan of Arc DLC - downloadable content for the above game = 120 points

Mortal Kombat Season Pass - DLC for the game = 600 points

How on earth is a new gen console going to make the following re-hashes better?

Madden 15

Call of Duty 16

Halo prequel (Before the Covenant)

Forza 25

FIFA Gazillion

Guys, a new console will in no way breath creativity into the industry. You see from the above list, what might be missing in the industry, and perhaps the source of your yearning.

We've had this conversation before and it was decided by majority, a ten year lifespan of a console was just about right given the time to develop a NEW intellectual property (IP).

But I will say this, "He who releases the next gen console on the block gets a decidedly advantageous headstart."

And it saddens me that Microsoft will not win the next round with Nintendo dropping the gauntlets, slapping both Microsoft and Sony with their CES2011 announcement. Anyway the cats out of the bag thanks to Nintendo and the other camps, Microsoft and Sony, will have to play survival in this cut throat industry, which means they will have break out the new console talk and keep the hype advantage if at all possible.

Thanks for the PC link. I can always use my laptop.

I use to hate going to the XBOX site on my PC. After that big change they made early last year, the load times were unbearable. Surprisingly, they fixed that I guess. It's still terribly hard to find things, but the pages don't hang.

Funny how they took the XBOX Live UI on the console a step back with the fall update. Someone at Microsoft has to be fired. Don't care if its the lady in the cafeteria. Someone should pay for their imbecilic ways.

Anyway, today's 50% discount IS the Fallout 3 / New Vegas maps and addons. Discounts only available today.

I wanted some help making the list of games and what not that are being offered at discounts this holiday season. Basically, someone is using the tv and I can't get to Live everyday. If you have the time and the community helper spirit, could you list all the stuff here in this thread so I will know to kick my brothers, mother / father off the tv for just the time I need to snatch any good deals. Thanks.

I think yesterday it was Fallout 3 map packs, which, frankly, I don't have the game so didn't care for that discount. But if a game like Torchlight were to be discounted from 15 dollars to say half price, I would hate to miss that opportunity.

TIA,

BlasterCat

I might have been interested in this game. But I consider buying this game as buying starforce copy protection with a game attached. I would never buy another starforce game after experiencing what it did to my high end pc last time.

You're basically giving the rights to starforce copy protection to install and disable what ever drivers it wants in order to prevent you from copying this game.

That's some seriously insideous DRM involved and a complete deal breaker.

A warning about KOTOR:

I tried to install the disc version (4 CD's) on my Windows 7 64 bit edition and it just won't work. Tried the compatibility mode and it plays but frequently crashes. I suspect the same is happening on the steam version. Just look for yourself in the forums at LucasArts.

Stay away from the Celery. The Celeron is a gimped chip. Stay away from integrated graphics. It sucks the motherboard resources.

You buy that cheap junk you will be sorry. Save your money. Wait till you can afford a real dual core intel processor. Make sure it has a graphics card. Make sure it says at least 256mb of graphics memory. 3 or 4 Gb of ram. No need for more than that at this time. Hard drives are big enough already. 320Gb is fine. Everything else comes standard with todays laptops.

Having HDMI is awesome if you have a flat screen lcd or led tv. It means you can hook up your laptop to your "big screen tv". I love that.

Consider your laptop an investment. Your not buying a bowl of soup. If you buy the cheapest now to save some money, you're going to live with tasting that rancid soup for a very long time, til you can afford to buy a decent bowl of soup at least.

My advice is don't pull the trigger till you can afford a "gamer ****" laptop. Anything less will just waste your money.

Can't tell you what is right for you but in my situation I always believed in the upgradability of a desktop PC. Funny thing is I never upgraded it before new architecture made it obsolete. I was always behind the bleeding edge of technology because my motherboard didn't support the latest video card or ram or hard drive or what-ever.

When the game came out that I had really wanted, I added it all up to upgrade the PC to run it, needing a new motherboard, ram, video, and heck new hard drive with more space,compared it to the laptops and found the laptops with mid grade specs were the same price as a PC.

I took the laptop (an Asus G60 gamer laptop) and have been very happy. It is portable, I can take it to my friends house for lan and it runs all the MMO's I need it to run on high settings. I find great value in that.

On the other hand, I ran the benchmark for Final Fantasy XIV. It's due out next year. You could spend 2000 dollars on a PC today and not be able to take out that beast on the high settings. So the point is I won't be able to upgrade my laptop for next years games. That makes me sad. But its always like that - you have to buy next years hardware to play next years games.

Laptop portability or the PC's upgradability. What's more valuable to you?