Then maybe you should ask yourself why so many end up in prison. They are not innocent people there. The US, through media, has for decades encouraged a culture that glorifies crime and violence. Maybe you should start there instead of whining about one of the symptoms.

Interesting to see the fascists in this thread making excuses for their comrade.

It has its problems, but all things considered (and especially after what’s going on in Afghanistan and the crap many demographics are going to endure)….I thank my lucky stars daily I live in this country.

And yet, Florida is still significantly below New York in death toll and the vast majority of New York's death toll happened in a single city. With Florida having a higher percentage of elderly, they should have surpassed NY months ago. As of August 27th, NY, PA, NJ, IL, GA, MI, AZ, MA, IN, LA, AL, OK, CT, MS, AR, NV, NM, RI, SD, ND all have a higher rate per 100,000 when compared to Florida.

This idea that the death rate or toll in Florida is something significant and somehow proves the efficacy of vaccine and mask mandates is... fake news as Florida is still well behind several states that did all these things.

By this same manner could we have called for Ronald Reagan's resignation after the 1983 barracks bombing Lebanon? ~250 marines died in a single attack. What about George Bush right after 9/11? Both of these incidents, and their ancillary after effects, have racked up a huge American and military death toll. Or if it's not necessarily the death toll let's look at PR and global initiatives. Trump removed us from Syria and left bases and supplies behind, not to mention Kurdish allies in the dust. Is that not applicable?

If we're viewing these types of events in a total vacuum, assuming no overlay with previous administrations (which literally every conservative is arguing), then these are far worse in comparison. I'm trying to gauge which type of requirements we're applying to these situations.