[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

if i can already play those games on a different available platform, where's the "value edge"?

lostrib

Because it's an advantage one next gen console has over the other. I mean, does this really need to be explained? You're arguing just to be arguing at this point. 

You're argument would have some merit had I stated that the PS4 is the most value packed gaming platform, because it comes with 3 free games. Then you could chime in and note that those games can also be experienced on PC, thus diminishing the strength of my argument. 

But that didn't happen. I made a clear comparison between the two next gen gaming consoles. So your statement has absolutely no bearing in this thread. 

yeah it does.  If i'm a PC gamer looking to buy a next gen console, how does 3 f2p games, I can already play, sway my vote/add any extra value to the PS4

Because the world doesn't care what platforms you have to choose from. The PS4 comes with 3 free games, giving it an advantage of the X1, which doesn't ship with these free games. Again, rudimentary stuff here. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

If you can't present a valid argument and are dancing around the issue, then sure, various posters will attack you from various angles, depending on how many holes there are in your argument.

Rocker6

So when are you going to take off your dancing shoes? You're comments have had done nothing to challenge the validity of the topic at hand, that the PS3ships with 3 free games, and gives it a value edge of an X1. 

Instead you've chosen to argue over semantics. Not very well either. 

I was never a good dancer, I'm afraid... :(

Also, had no idea the X1 is meant to compete with the PS3! :shock:

More irrelevant nonsense. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

If you can't present a valid argument and are dancing around the issue, then sure, various posters will attack you from various angles, depending on how many holes there are in your argument.

lostrib

So when are you going to take off your dancing shoes? You're comments have had done nothing to challenge the validity of the topic at hand, that the PS3 ships with 3 free games, and gives it a value edge of an X1. 

Instead you've chosen to argue over semantics. Not very well either. 

if i can already play those games on a different available platform, where's the "value edge"?

Because it's an advantage one next gen console has over the other. I mean, does this really need to be explained? You're arguing just to be arguing at this point. 

You're argument would have some merit had I stated that the PS4 is the most value packed gaming platform, because it comes with 3 free games. Then you could chime in and note that those games can also be experienced on PC, thus diminishing the strength of my argument. 

But that didn't happen. I made a clear comparison between the two next gen gaming consoles. So your statement has absolutely no bearing in this thread. 

[QUOTE="clr84651"]

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

There, it's fixed. Figured people would sort of just use their head and know that they're console exclusives. Sort of like X1 fans say that Titanfall is an exclusive. 

Rocker6

You'll always get nitpicked to death for every little thing here. 

If you can't present a valid argument and are dancing around the issue, then sure, various posters will attack you from various angles, depending on how many holes there are in your argument.

So when are you going to take off your dancing shoes? You're comments have had done nothing to challenge the validity of the topic at hand, that the PS4 ships with 3 free games, and gives it a value edge of an X1. 

Instead you've chosen to argue over semantics. Not very well either. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

except this is system wars, not console wars

lostrib

Has nothing to do with this topic or the argument at hand. Non-sequitur. 

well apparently it does since there is so much argument over exclusivity

This really isn't argument though. That would imply two sides with equally valid claims debating to an eventual conclusion. 

Instead, I've been explaining very basic gaming nomenclature to posters who probably consider themselves knowledgeable on this subject. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] We understand the phrase, but console exclusive was rabidly opposed by cows on the forum because of all the 360/PC games. No one uses it on SW.lostrib

Then those cows are just as stubborn as some of the posters in this thread. 

Titanfall is a console exclusive. Period. Doesn't matter than it can be played on PC in the context of console comparisons. 

This is pretty rudimentary stuff, not sure why it has to be pointed out or explained to begin with. 

except this is system wars, not console wars

Has nothing to do with this topic or the argument at hand. Non-sequitur. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Techincally he's right. The phrase "console exclusive" would mean its exclusively on consoles.blue_hazy_basic

No, it would be mean among consoles, it's exclusive. I mean, are some of you just going to pretend that you don't understand this?

Continuing to argue this point is down right silly. Please just stop. 

Then those cows are just as stubborn as some of the posters in this thread. 

Titanfall is a console exclusive. Period. Doesn't matter than it can be played on PC in the context of console comparisons. 

This is pretty rudimentary stuff, not sure why it has to be pointed out or explained to begin with. 

[QUOTE="xxxLUGZxxx"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

It can be... or at least I've seen it used that way a few times. Still, the term makes no sense, so it's a moot point anyway.

Rocker6

Sure it does, you just have to stop arguing semantics, and stick to the topic...then the term will make much more sense. Just give it a few minutes and clarity should come. 

When a statement is flawed and nonsensical, there can be no clarity...

Then there's no hope for you. 

[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well, I don't. Last time I checked, an exclusive is a title availible on a single platform. A console exclusive would be a title availible on consoles but not on the PC, but that term isn't used on SW as far as I'm aware.

However, none of the games you listed fit those bills...

blue_hazy_basic

That's not the definition of console exclusive at all...

No, it would be mean among consoles, it's exclusive. I mean, are some of you just going to pretend that you don't understand this?

Continuing to argue this point is down right silly. Please just stop. 

[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

Well, I don't. Last time I checked, an exclusive is a title availible on a single platform. A console exclusive would be a title availible on consoles but not on the PC, but that term isn't used on SW as far as I'm aware.

However, none of the games you listed fit those bills...

Rocker6

That's not the definition of console exclusive at all...

It can be... or at least I've seen it used that way a few times. Still, the term makes no sense, so it's a moot point anyway.

Sure it does, you just have to stop arguing semantics, and stick to the topic...then the term will make much more sense. Just give it a few minutes and clarity should come.