Whew, it's been almost two weeks since we've seen a Mario game I was beginning to miss him.

I seriously think Nintnedo is working on a GTA clone staring Mario right now.

Well, it's not hyped as much as other franchises, but quality-wise this could be my favourite platform-shooter series since Turrican.nopalversion

I would easily say that Rachet and Clank is a bigger franchise than some of the 360 examples Duke gave.

The past is the past looking from today forward the PS3 has the strongest line-up coming out.

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So I guess if they make you aim...IT IS A SHOOTER!!! I guess Obvilion has to be one also. Heya...Rachet and Clank too. Oh no...Your not getting away either Drake's Forture. You know what...Lets make RE5 one also.

The amusing thing is. So many people seem to be stuck in the past genre step up. Take RPGs for instance...OMG it has to be ATB or TurnBased. Or else it is not a real RPG. Unless you have a command menu...It is not an RPG. The amusing thing about it is...That was due to technological limitations. Now they do not need that. So what is their to stop a First Person Free Roaming RPG...Obvilion? OR even Bioshock? Or lets take Mass Effect...If you say that is a shooter. I might as well say RE5, Rachet and Clank, Drake's forture, and dozens of others are. I guess PS3 is nothing but Shooters also. Maybe the prespection is wrong...Maybe it is not a shooter with RPG elements...But an RPG taking shooter elements? Maybe it is an action game taking shooting elements?

Maybe a better way to pharse is it. It does not fit your definition of which is in each genre

 

The_Duke_Lives

If you read his examples, none of them are the ones you listed.  360 has more shooters than anything else.  Mass effect though, should not be on that list though.  I think 360s games are better than sonys, sure, even this holiday season, but because a lot of them are shooters, i dont think it blows ps3s out of the water based on diversity alone.  Still, atleast the shooters are all amazing

I wish there were more shooters to choose from on 360. I don't personally go for JRPGs and the like as much as I go for some gun action.

Funny part is, the only real flagship on PS3 at the moment is ........... a shooter.

For me I am looking for 3rd person action/adventure games, those are may favorites easily.  First party exclusive wise how many will be on the 360 this holiday season.  Mass Effect is more an RPG but its real time and seems to have plenty of action so that can qualify.  What else, Too Human, which is very iffy at the moment.  Thats about it. I know next year they will improve greatly in that area.

On the PS3 you got Ratchet and Clank, one of my favorites.  Uncharted looks like just the type of game for me.  Heavenly Sword, ok you can file that one under iffy just like Too Human.  I don't know what exactly Little Big Planet is categorized as but right now it seems like a platformer which falls under that umbrella. And if its still coming out this year the big daddy of them all MGS4.  Both systems will be getting GTAIV, DMC4, Assassin's Creed. So for me most of my games will be on the PS3 end this year.  Not saying any of them will be better than any other, just action/adventure wise the PS3 has more games I am looking forward too.

I can understand if you have a fascination with certain platformers, as R&C and Drake's Fortune will probably give you the platforming you want, but as far as actual action/adventure, the 360 has it in spades, and it's wrong to overlook that.

I played Dead Rising, its ok, rental game. I dont care at all for GTA ripoffs, I will stick to the real thing. Kameo, just no. And I have Oblivion. I did say Heavenly Sword is the same question mark as Too Human.  If you want to throw Lost Planet into the list of 360 games I dont care about go ahead cause I dont care for it.  Gears yes, most of the rest of the old games no thanks, maybe if really cheap. There is a reason I dont have a 360 yet, not much that interested me up until this point.

I just dont see high quality third person action/adventure games coming from MS first party, they never have had it and its something they need to work on.  Sony has been excellent at it for years and its the main reason I got the PS3 first.

hmmmmmmmm Rachet and Clank is a second tier franchise?

With a less than spectacular summer of games in store look for PS3 sales to be pretty crappy until Fall when the better games start coming out.

Sony is really putting themsleves in a tough poition here.

[QUOTE="yomi_basic"]Kewl, sounds like HALO 3 is all set to deliver in terms of the overall gameplay experience. The_Duke_Lives

We still have yet to see what's going on with singleplayer though.......

LOL, yea I guess it's pretty easy to forget there is a whole single player thing that needs to be addressed too.

Damn... I cant stand Peter Moore hes cocky and think hes some kind of gaming god... If you think on the games for PS3 and 360 I think its even... But when Lair and Heavenly Sword arrives, PS3 will take the lead in games imo... The only game I think looks fun on the 360 is Dead Rising, I dont like shooters that much.Someguyinavan

He's no worse than anyone else out there, but I agree the PS3 will overtake the Xbox360 as time passes.

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Apparently the Japanese only likes mini games now :P

gaminggeek

you joke, but the thought of that scares me 

You and me both. I can't really think of the last non mini-game type game that sold like Gangusters in Japan (Final Fantasy?)

I feel that people are overeacting to Japanese sales and generalising that all portable games are mini-games. 

If you just look at the top 20 selling games as listed last week out of that top 20 these games were in there.  

Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings is not a mini-game collection.

Super Paper Mario  is not a mini-game collection.
Yoshi's Island DS is not a mini-game collection.
Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2:  is not a mini-game collection (unless all puzzle games are suddenly slurred with the term?)

New Super Mario Bros. is not a mini-game collection.

Phoenix Wright 4 is not a mini-game collection.

Mario Kart DS is not a mini-game collection.
Animal Crossing Wild World is not a mini-game collection.

Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village is not a mini-game collection (unless all puzzle games are suddenly slurred with the term?)

Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix) is not a mini-game collection.
English Training (Nintendo) is not a mini-game collection.

Obviously we're kidding just a bit here but you have to admit that the games you mention are much more simple in nature than what has been popular here. Most of those games have only the basic trappings of a story (if they have one at all) and are based on fairly simple time tested gameplay mechanics.

Many of the games you mention are also easy to play in quick doses.

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As the PS3 continues to close the gap and eventually outsells the 360 I wonder what Mr. Moore is going to be saying.

I love the identity piece because the Xbox is pretty much a carbon copy of the Sony model.

Good stuff, though I love smacktalk.

Oilers99

The PS3 is going to close the gap? It just isn't going to happen. Halo 3 coming out sooner than expected is a huge blow and Sony doesn't have noteworthy exclusives coming out until November.

Moore's interview is pretty spot on. In so many words, he summed up the obvious- Sony just hasn't given the consumer a reason to buy a PS3. All Sony PR guys can do is talk about potential. MS and Nintendo know that gaming is all about the games, not how much potential one's hardware has. You would think Sony would have kept that in mind from their PS2 days.

It's already happening. So far though I agree there really are not to many reasons to buy a PS3 but they are coming and considering where PS3 is at wihout great content MS should be on the offensive right now (not that it will keep Sony from passing them up)

The PS3 is having trouble outselling the GBA right now. I don't think that's indicating a really strong base of support without games. That indicates, to me, that it's getting a collective "meh".

It will pick up, but it's far, far away from beating the 360. And I think it's going to sell enough to remain alive for several years, but it's not going to beat either the Wii or 360. 

Not sure where your getting your figures from (Are you looking at Japan only where by the way the PS3 is still outselling the 360) but you're wrong.

I've said it will outsell the 360 when all is said and done and if they deliver on the potnetial of their Q3/Q4 games they could make a big move even faster than you think.

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As the PS3 continues to close the gap and eventually outsells the 360 I wonder what Mr. Moore is going to be saying.

I love the identity piece because the Xbox is pretty much a carbon copy of the Sony model.

Good stuff, though I love smacktalk.

HiResDes

The PS3 is going to close the gap? It just isn't going to happen. Halo 3 coming out sooner than expected is a huge blow and Sony doesn't have noteworthy exclusives coming out until November.

Moore's interview is pretty spot on. In so many words, he summed up the obvious- Sony just hasn't given the consumer a reason to buy a PS3. All Sony PR guys can do is talk about potential. MS and Nintendo know that gaming is all about the games, not how much potential one's hardware has. You would think Sony would have kept that in mind from their PS2 days.

anyway its an awful comparison the systems couldn't have less in common. The Dreamcast was the first out of its gen, the Dreamcast had a great launch, and the Dreamcast had the quality games but not a very big quantity of strong support from both Sega and the third parties. Sega had just come off of the horrible disaster known as the Sega Saturn, and obviously Sony has just came off of a glorious victory in the PS2. The Dreamcast was not horribly overpriced, was the first system to have online, and it failed partially because it didn't have deep enough pockets behind it. Sony and its PS3 are in a completely different position. 

I was thinking the same thing but why let reality get in the way of good trash talk?