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i would just like to know why everyone hates xbox one, is it the design or what?

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@counterswift Because they have no foresight and cannot think for their own self.

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More the business practices I think than the design. Used game policies, always on, mandatory kinect, focus on TV/casuals etc. The machine itself looks just fine, if a bit pricey at $500.

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@nocoolnamejim @counterswift finally someone who replied with something valid

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@counterswift @nocoolnamejim you asked just 1 minute ago..

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@counterswift

You're late to the party.

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@H4num4n @counterswift not really i watched a majority of the videos a long time ago


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@H4num4n @counterswift He's one of the many, many people who watched both conferences, enjoyed them and didn't see all the hubbub on the game news sites. He didn't know that it was cool to hate the Xbox for a mixture of questionable and sometimes outright fabricated reasons.

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@counterswift @H4num4n

Is mandatory kinect and always on no prob for you?

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@counterswift how can you ask that?

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@counterswift so far eveything iv seen the name the games the only being offline for 24hours the fact it can;t play games from JPN need i say more

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@BillyColeman @counterswift just curiosity


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@MjnE "bribing devs and pubs, faking applause in presentation" lol, good one.

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@Ghosthunter54 @r3v3nant_1 @MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman Let me know when you actually shoot any of mine down, buddy.

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@r3v3nant_1 @MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman The PS3 was more expensive because it had things built in that were extra on the 360. Wireless and hard drives to name two. Not to mention Blu-Ray.

Just because you'd have bought a Kinect doesnt mean everyone wants it spying on them whenever the One is on.

The 24 hour internet check is just another unnecessary restriction on when and where you can play your games. Nothing more. No positives to it at all.

Again, only relevant to you. I dont buy used either, doesnt mean it shouldnt be allowed.

The rest is just irrelevant

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@MjnE @r3v3nant_1 @counterswift @BillyColeman I haven't decided which one I want, but until I have a legitimate reason to like one more than the other, I'll wait and see. It's all about the games, and I liked the Xbox One's lineup more.

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@r3v3nant_1 @MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman

1)It does cost more, but so did the PS3 last generation, and it was a good console.

1A) It costs more now. The PS3 cost more 12 years ago isn't a reason to buy the more expensive console now.

2) I'm not afraid of the Kinect, I would have bought it anyway.

2A) Good for you. Most people don't like being required to fork over another $100 for a kinect they won't use just so M$ can read their heartrate.

3) Who gives a shit about the 24h internet check. I'm always connected, just like everyone else who has friends who game.

3A) Your friends better get their own xbone, because they'll only be able to play on yours for up to 1 hour.

4)Used game fee is up to publishers and developers. Don't buy used anyway, because I like to support developers.

4A) M$ enabled it, without them, it wouldn't exist. Thus, they're just as responsible as any developer. Some games aren't worth $60, hence you buy a used game. Or perhaps you play one used in the bargain bin, find you like the dev, and buy new from them on a latter game - something you wouldn't have done without buying that other game used.

5) The amount of DRM isn't known yet.

5A) It's a check every 24 hours.

6) Bribing devs? Thats called politics. It sucks but they both do it. Destiny is multiplatform, but they revealed the gameplay on the PS4.

6A) I guess it's ok then. Where did you say politics is a good thing?

7) There were no fake applause. Many people are legitimately excited for the games shown.

7A) There was also plenty of dead silence where M$ was expecting applause.

8) They didn't mention TV or Sports once during this conference.

8A) Probably because they said it all a few weeks before.

9)Please list more. I would love to shoot them down, too.

9A) Please list more. I would also love to shoot them down.

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@Ghosthunter54 @MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman lol

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@r3v3nant_1 @MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman this is not shooting down anything, its just saying its bad but you dont mind it...

go ahead and buy one, it'll be your loss..

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@MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman I'd agree with everything you said except the faking applause. It seemed pretty dead silent to me after M$'s guy announced the price lol

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@MjnE @counterswift @BillyColeman

It does cost more, but so did the PS3 last generation, and it was a good console.

I'm not afraid of the Kinect, I would have bought it anyway.

Who gives a shit about the 24h internet check. I'm always connected, just like everyone else who has friends who game.

Used game fee is up to publishers and developers. Don't buy used anyway, because I like to support developers.

The amount of DRM isn't known yet.

Bribing devs? Thats called politics. It sucks but they both do it. Destiny is multiplatform, but they revealed the gameplay on the PS4.

There were no fake applause. Many people are legitimately excited for the games shown.

They didn't mention TV or Sports once during this conference.

Please list more. I would love to shoot them down, too.

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@counterswift @BillyColeman costs more, forces kinect and mics on you, mandatory 24h internet check if you havent done anything illegal to the console, used game fee, DRM, bribing devs and pubs, faking applause in presentation, focus on TV and sports instead of games

and the list goes on and on...

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DRM

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really too bad about Ryse

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@Dark_Metamorphosis same as god of war yet without mythology. and god of war has less QTEs

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For me, the One is a superior system with more interesting/higher quality exclusives. But is it worth the $100 premium and restrictive DRM? If Microsoft can do something to make this an easier sell, they win, but as it stands now, I'm on the fence.

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@FatKevinSmith The problem, from my perspective, is that the $100 difference is because of mandatory Kinect. Most people HATE kinect and don't even want it for free; making them pay extra for it (in a less powerful system, btw) is just an insult to the fans.


BTW - PS4 is quite literally 50% more powerful - it has 18 GPU cores to the X1's 12.

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@FatKevinSmith dude, the ps4 has 50% more raw power, costs $100 less, and has way more and way better games. Open the eyes :p

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It doesn't have 50% more power and if it did, the game demos did not show this in the least. Stop being a fanboy. The way the Xbox can flip back and forth and do the matchmaking is insane. It is just way more polished of a system, and although I am not sold on the kinect, it destroys the gimmicky PSEye. Exclusives were FAR more interesting on the One. The $100 difference? Yeah its a bummer, but I make six figures, its not an issue for me.

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@FatKevinSmith there were barely exclusives shown... only interesting was RYSE. most of the games shown were multiplatform but ppl were paid not to say that.

It does have 50% more power, but if you're such a TV AND SPORTS fan i can imagine that youll have fun with that thing...

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i wish that Infamous second son would be on xbox


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aswell


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I feel like this video was missing a few games?

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@SunnyLollipop It is =] There are a few more that I didn't include like Sunset Overdrive and Crimson Dragon.

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PS4 and you forgot some Exclusives like The Order....

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@AdrianWrz It wasn't specifically said to be an exclusive so I had to cut it sadly.

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@tempertress @AdrianWrz isn't titanFall a non exclusive, since its coming to PC and 360?

ps, edited: i meant 360 not ps4

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@tempertress @noirtenshin @AdrianWrz ya that ones a good call

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@noirtenshin @AdrianWrz Only 360 and PC. Because it's "eventually" I still included it.

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@bledsoe45sbc @noirtenshin @tempertress @AdrianWrz Respawn said that sequels probably will, but not the first one.

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@noirtenshin @tempertress @AdrianWrz is it coming to ps4 ?

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@tempertress @AdrianWrz Except Sony owns the studio that's developing it sooo...

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@23Jarek23 @tempertress @AdrianWrz i think they mean console exclusives

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@tempertress @23Jarek23 @AdrianWrz Then what's the point of the video if the information isn't conclusive? or why include Titanfall in the video if it's also coming to PC? I'm sure waiting a few hours while the team at E3 confirmed such questions wouldn't have killed gamestops viewership.

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@tempertress @23Jarek23 @AdrianWrz eddie would just call it exclusive ; rumor

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@23Jarek23 @AdrianWrz I don't wanna lead you guys astray without a 100% confirmation, that's all =]

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@23Jarek23 @tempertress @AdrianWrz ya its 1st party not 2nd

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Xbox one whooped PS4's ass in exclusives

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@counterswift with what games?

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@counterswift yea with exclusives that are coming to PC and PS4 (a bit later thou)

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@counterswift Said no one ever.

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@Shango4 @counterswift lol nice


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@counterswift @Shango4 thanks.

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Wait, where did The Order 1886 go? Did they just forget it? XD

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@lx_theo

Good point.

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@nocoolnamejim @lx_theo It wasn't confirmed to be exclusive so I had to leave it out.

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xbox have more games but ps4 is cheaper

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Meh, i give up. When even the game "journalists" describe the combat in Ryse as QTE there is no hope left

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PS4 Obviously

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