SPOILING the Ending - BioShock Infinite

Game of the year 2013. Such an epic game.

Carolyn's hand keeps slipping into an alternate dimension. She's lucky she doesn't lose a finger like Elizabeth.

Now, this is me asking for a spoiler because I need it, i havent played the first bioshock however, from what i understand u never find out what happened to the city of Rapture? is it so and if it is maybe a DeWitt tried to rescue a Elizabeth and in the process destroyed the city?

I, as many of you have many unanswered questions, however what i make of the ending is much more complicated and i believe that it is albeit a great ending, wrong. elizabeth says: "one man, one city, one lighthouse" and hints towards the similarities of stories (such as the old story of a prince saving a princess from a tower, and for much of the game i did believe that the two were going to fall in love and they did but it was more family love then my idea). Now, we see in the game that Elizabeth sends DeWitt to several universes through the tares she creates, as such the DeWitt we are playing becomes part, briefly, of more then one universe, this leads me to believe that by killing DeWitt at the end the Elizabeths destroy a link between several universes and therefor the implications of this are more severe then Comstock never existing, and because Comstock himself had moved from universe to universe there is a chance that he might be alive. Then I though of the butterfly effect, what would happen to the world if DeWitt drowned at his baptism, the Lutese would have still lived and probably someone else, with more evil intetions could have found her.

multiple final bombs!! I love Bioshock Infinite !!!

I'm wondering what's going to be in the season-pass aka dlc, I paid $20.00 for and or when it's coming?!

I guess my gripe with the ending of this game is like what was said below was the inclusion of Rapture without much of an explanation. We are told that there are infinite universes where there is a man, a city, and a lighthouse. Does that mean that the storyline in all of these universes is somewhat similar? Are the same themes carried over? If you analyze the story of Bioshock and Bioshock Infinite you will find large differences? Does this mean Comstock and Booker are in the Bioshock universe as well? Where does Elizabeth get her powers and does this mean Anna will have them as well without the interference of Comstock which means that Lutece's goal of stopping humans from causing tears in Time and Space wasn't successful because by the time Anna grows up she will still have her powers without a leash to subdue her?

So many questions my brain hurts...

Am I the only one that feels like Bioshock is the perfect platform for a television series?

my head hurts after seeing the ending

what in fucks name will the next bioshock be about????!!!!

space? seems like kindof a downgrade.

i hope they continue the whole multiverse thing in the next couple. Biggest problem i had with this game, and its the only one cuz this shit is art, is that the entire premise is based upon unlimited possibilities, but its linear gameplay. I mean its not entirely possible, can u imagine a sandbox of multiverse travel. it would be impossible to design. But i wish they had multiple endings, or maybe some different choices, then, throw, throw at black people, eat chips till cutscene continues.

good breakdown too btw

This was an amazing podcast. Fun Fun Fun.
The first 10 mins sold Bioshock Infinite for me.

The news quiz was awesome too. Great job guys.

Guys... i know this is abit off off topic... but after i realize this is kind of like multiple time line.. parallel universe i just what to say....

El Psy Congroo.....

@bearcomputerrep no. Booker is the true comstock since he is Elizabeth's father. in the universe where Booker becomes Comstock, Comstock is left sterilized by an experiment perfomed by lutece. this forces him to seek for HIS child in another universe where he can actually have children.

@jinflorida just... don't comment any more

@bearcomputerrep

After the credits, Anna would be in the crib. At the beginning in the light house there is a note about Booker wiping away his debt. This means reversing a debt he has already paid in the past. That note we will find out later, was placed by the Lutece twins. It seems odd that Comstalk would have put the letter there since he already has Elizabeth stashed in the tower. So in essence Booker is getting Elizabeth for the Lutece twins (bring us the girl and wipe away the debt) to fix the issues of creating tears between universes, which normal human beings shouldnt be able to do. By doing this they need Elizabeth to make a tear into an alternate universe, where Booker doesnt get baptized, never making Comstalk a prophet, and not splitting Elizabeth into two worlds (the pinky in the one world and her body in the other), which gave her powers in the first place. If Booker does this, the Lutece twins will have successfully restored balance to the multi-verse, and fulfilling their promise by giving Anna to Booker as the note said in the light house.

Wow you guys didn't see the Big Daddy and Little sister in the songbird drowning part? That's the biggest symbolism for their relationship. Songbird is the big daddy and Elizabeth/Anna is the little sister.

seriously, no one paid atention to the ending? they go to the past and kill the guy from the present the one you are controling not the one before the baptism that doesnt change shit. lol

So here's a question... does Booker ever sleep during this whole experience, or does this take place during one long ass day with no break? I mean the player can break, but seemingly, it Booker & Elizabeth do this in the span of what seems one day.

Total MindF***, Now we go on this alternate universe that explains the begenning and drops this bombshell, but that is not as suprising as what happens next, however the following event really shocks you as on....and on....and on...till they girls kill you. Next thing to find out that Liz is also the Little Sisters lol.

Since all of the Elisabeths drowned him, it would affect all of their realities, is what I find reasonable. Hence, they disappear one after the other.

I recommend the following article to anyone who wants a clearer take on the ending of Bioshock Infinite. It's well constructed and makes sens.

@SOKOLEK Well first of all, Gamespot is not the company that made Bioshock Infinite, that was Irrational Games. Gamespot is a gaming website. Carolyn and Kevin have no affiliation with Irrational whatsoever, they are merely discussing this game. This really is not the platform for you to voice your opinions, your just misinformed. If anything is being promoted in this video it is the game itself. Carolyn is as normal as anyone else, stop talking of something you have no understanding of.

I just beat the game yesterday, was a great ending.

unlimited amount of possibilities in the multiverse, so if u can wrap ur head around that, anything makes sense in that setting lol

A D might stand for after death where he survived beyond the reality in witch he sacrificed himself and was left w that mark to remind him

I love knowing how I could get a job anywhere I wanted because 90% of workers are complete morons

Kind of like how "Infinite" is misspelled throughout this entire video on the warning at the top.

How does anyone involved in this video KEEP their job?

This kind of thing confounds me daily.

And Bioshock Infinite does not question big themes, what it does is that it preaches you about those big themes. It's quite different to make you think about something and telling you what to think about a subject.

With every narrative you must create a possibility space. It can be whatever you want, but it must be well defined. Spider Man has spider senses but he does not fly. Jedi control minds but they are not invulnerable to blasters if hit. You can do whatever you want but you must create a coherent possibility space for your world to exist. When you create a really broad one (i.e. my story is set in a dream, my story is a lie, my story is set in every possible universe) what you do is you make any story meaningless. If everything goes, then nothing really matters and nothing really surprises you. It's a dream right? So I can fly or not. It doesn't matter anyway. What Bioshock Infinite does is this. It creates a lazy plot device where everything is possible. So you can say anything and it's all the same. DeWitt is Comstock. Ok. If he was Comstock's son or father it would be ok aswell. It would be the exact same thing. It really doesn't matter. It's all justified.

18:42 No. not "before he can be baptized".

HE IS being baptized.

His daughter/s are literally absolving him of his sins, before they can even happen.

In an early Voxophone (actually the 3rd one behind the greenhouse near the entrance to Columbia) Comstock/Dewitt ponders that if a man pre-batism is a sinner and the one after is a saint, what happens to the man submerged?

He posists that THAT man. THAT man in-between the worlds, goes off to explore a new world where he is both: both sinner yet born anew.

Perfectly explains the post-credits ending. Where he obviously remembers his ordeal and is rushing to find an (assumed) Annabelle in her crib.

I thought rapture was in the the middle of the 20th century

the columbia dream: you have to be asleep to believe it.

My brain is totally fried....I don't even care anymore. I'm just gonna find a game that doesn't screw with my head too much....*sigh*

Tell me they smoked a bowl before this.

Robert A. Heinlein does in a couple pages more mind blowing things than bio.inf in 13-16 hours. The story is called "All you Zombies" and won several SciFi awards.

EVERY good book can do more in less time on one page or two? Proust, Joyce, Nabokov ... I could have lived without 15 hours of shooting & brutal violence.

The fun part today is to listen to other peoples "philoso-wank" on bio.inf. It's becoming a meme of pathetic self-revelation. The more people (game journos in particular, all over the web) talk, the more they reveal about themselves? Very Freudian. See also: Jacques Derrida: "La Voix et le Phénomène" (1967)

i still don`t understand why the baptism would make booker forget who he is, and why he became racist, why kidnap your own daughter from the past?,

The ending was meh at best. It was a good and interesting story until they threw all the unrequired metaphysics at you in an attempt to make the story seem more deep than it actually is.

It wasn't the metaphysics that bothered me, but the lame soap opera twists that came with it. Dewitt is actually past (or current??) Comstock who goes back in time to force himself to give up his daughter, why?? No reason is given why that happens, it just makes for an interesting twist.

Why is the game taking place? The Lutece's are bored or something and want to force the two Dewitts together? To stop a power hungry inter-dimensional Elizabeth, who herself wants to be stopped and yet she still goes and destroys future New York despite she realizes it's wrong. "She can't stop what she's set in motion dang it!!!!!!" despite the fact she's an all powerful dictator

Rapture's inclusion was more insulting than anything else. You will respond that it's an example of alternate Columbia but that just doesn't pan out. There's no Booker character; the main protagonist of the first game had no prior sins, he was brainwashed. Who he thought he was was a complete lie. There's no Elizabeth, and there's no metaphysical conflict. It's inclusion was just a shallow attempt to recapture nostalgia and to help his shaky metaphysical story. Yeah I did see the Little Sister crying over her dead Big Daddy behind songbird, but then Elizabeth is a single representation of all the alternate reality Little Sister.

If it was an actually well done ending I'd be praising it as you all are now. But IN MY OPINION Levine did not do a good job. He TRIED to make an interesting story; they sat down in story-board room and were like "ok how do we make this story interesting". You can't make a great story that way. I knew I was going to hate the ending when Levine was hyping it up before the game was released

I'd give the game an 8/10, cuz besides my critique of the ending it was still a fun game. I just wish it had a bit more atmosphere, variety in enemies, and was a slower game like Bioshock and not so ACTION-BACKED EXPLOSION-fest to attract all the CoD fans.

I am prepared to have a discussion so if you'd like to have on comment; maybe you agree with me or think I'm some idiot who's criticizing your favorite game. If you are going to be insulting or rude I will be right back to you so be warned.