The Gist - 5 Of The Worst Games Of 2013

@sol_invictus55 @JimmyFrost Him + me = we.

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55 If you really think sexism is "everywhere", you might have a few issues of your own.

"You look for evil in people, sooner or later you'll find it. Even when it wasn't there in the first place."

inb4 accusations to the tune of "OMG THIS MISOGYNIST DOESN'T THINK SEXISM EXISTS" ; contrary to popular belief, it is indeed possible possible to have an opinion that doesn't exist on one of two extremities.

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55 you that didn´t get it Kevin...

( "sexism" based on your own biased views you can find it pretty much anywhere.) If your view is biased = you can find sexism anywhere.

My point of view is...VideoGAME isn´t a place for us to carry any flag against stuff bad or wrong in the world.

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55 I think his point was that sexism (which he put in quotation marks) is relative and a matter of perspective. And from a very general and broad perspective you would find it in more than just these games.

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55 While I don't disagree with you, it seems to be fairly arbitrary to pan games for being sexist (or having elements found to be distasteful) while violence and murder run rampant and almost without note. Hell, taking lives is a celebrated trait within the gaming culture.

So murder is okay but discriminating against people based on their skin colour, gender or another part of their identity is taboo? I'm sorry, that argument doesn't sound like it has much of a leg to stand on. There isn't any room for taboos in realms of expression. If anything is off the table, then we stop being honest and instead start rehearsing the same damn conversations we will be having for the rest of our lives.

Yes, women should be treated better in our societies. Yes, we shouldn't act like psychopaths, but banning or panning games with objectionable material is not the way to go. We need to be able to disagree with content-- even intensely, without allowing that to cloud our judgement. The biker game is bad, doubtlessly, but its not because of its portrayal of women, no more than its portrayal of the rural landscape or social hierarchy of "anarchical" groups. Because a portrayal's value is completely based on your opinion of the object that it is portraying. If I think the idea of "anarchists", to use the term loosely, is that they are princes of the Earth and the highest example of humanity, then I might view Assassin's Creed 4 uncharitably, as the pirates squandered their freedom in this game and all turn out to be rotten individuals. My judgement of the game is inherently tied to my world view, in this case.

It's good to hold a view that women deserve better than what they get; I share it. But when ideology informs judgement then you are no longer seeking the truth. You've passed sentence before looking at the case. Judgement needs to be passed in merit of the case-- and fortunately, there seems to be little merit to be found in this game.

@Kevin-V

I like how you decide to pop up every now and again to talk down to somebody then disappear

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55 I will try to take a middle ground here.

While sexism (which I guess is now more broadly defined as anything that paints women in a negative or submissive light) is certainly rampant in the media, it seems that many members of GS are sick of how much it is brought up on a site dedicated to games. Feminism has it's own internal problems right now as well (between those who approach it academically and focus on more tangible goals like equal pay and equal oppurtunity vs those who focus on attacking men and the media at every turn).

But it is Jess's show and opinion columns like The Point, Feedbackula and to an extent, The Gist, are what make GS a far more interesting and engaging game site (compared to IGN or any other umber of lifeless sites).

@Kevin-V @sol_invictus55

Ok just seems like a lot of the things on Gamespot are focused on negativity and I dont like that, maybe good news just doesnt get as many viewers.

@moonboots89 @sol_invictus55

I have seen so such video on this site

@BuzzLiteBeer What is a "mainstream gamer"? Is there a upper-class of gamer I should be aware of that only play the most niche of titles or the most obscure cult classics? Oh how elite you all must be! Probably the same people I have to hear going on and on about "Beyond Good and Evil" or "Psychonauts" or those fuckin oddworld games like they were gods gift to gamers. Game culture is looking more and more like music culture everyday with all you hipsters. Everyone has to be so cool and only play indie titles and make the next big call of duty joke or talk about how they have played and beat every (insert popular game series here) and hated them all. Ok you like gone home cool other people dont guess what that is also cool cause it dont fuckin matter! Its opinions!

@BuzzLiteBeer Most of these people are just to scared to say why they really hate the game. Yeah, I said it. We know it's true.