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DayZ creator angry about The War Z

Dean Hall says he is "quite hurt personally" over confusion regarding Hammerpoint Interactive's controversial zombie game.

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DayZ creator Dean Hall has spoken out against controversial zombie game The War Z, which features numerous similarities to Hall's game. Writing on Reddit, he explained that the consumer confusion surrounding both games has left him "quite personally hurt."

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"I am angry about The War Z. I'm very angry," Hall said. "I'm quite hurt personally because anyone can see how similar the words are, and while the average gamer knows the difference individual people don't. I've had family members/close friends mistake the difference and confront me about what they believed was unethical behavior they thought I was making."

Hall further explained that he has bet his livelihood and reputation on DayZ, which is now at stake given the events surrounding The War Z.

"I really don't think anyone can understand just quite how exasperated that can make you feel when you've gambled everything on something, put your whole self and reputation on the line," he said. "So it hasn't made my life very pleasant and I disagree entirely with the conduct and how consumers have been treated."

This is not the first time Hall has spoken his mind about The War Z. In December, Hall said the controversy surrounding The War Z has left him "depressed," noting he contemplated quitting game development altogether because of it.

Controversy surrounding The War Z came to light upon the game's release through Steam in December. Users quickly began reporting numerous issues with The War Z. Further, many players criticized the game and developer Hammerpoint for being misleading and for censoring their comments about issues with the game. The game has since been pulled from Steam.

GameSpot's recent review of The War Z found it to be a "complete disaster."

As for Day Z, Hall and his team are currently working on a standalone version of the zombie game to be published by Bohemia Interactive in 2013 for PC.

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But both Day Z AND War Z are ripping off the success of The Walking Dead TV show. Hardly Anyone would be playing either his mod or the war z game if The Walking Dead wasn't such a big hit, and to call out someone for stealing the same idea you stole yourself is weak at best. People in glass houses an' all that! Well thats my opinion on it anyway, seeing as how zombie games have been around for ages, and surviving a zombie apocalypse is hardly a new concept in entertainment is it.

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@azumabob lol whaaat?! So using your logic, every zombie game ever made is a copy of The Walking Dead. Oh AND The Walking Dead is a copy from every zombie movie made before it. Its a vicious circle. Get used to it I guess.

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@MoreThot @azumabob No, not at all. If you honestly think that the recent success of Day Z and War Z are coincidental to the far greater success of The Walking Dead as, basically, a cutural phenominon, given how many mainstream TV viewers watch the show, you are being a little niave IMHO. Its my opinion, but it holds a fair degree of merit I would wager.

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@azumabob @MoreThot While The Walking Dead can probably be considered to attribute part of the interest from the mainstream in games such as DayZ, to say that hardly anyone would be playing it otherwise is a huge overstatement considering the zombie fandom has been rampant for a long time now, even proceeding The Walking Dead. The reason The Walking Dead is so popular is because of that long existing fandom, really.

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@azumabob

Oh, and this:

Re-posted from earlier.

Since people will inevitably not bother to read the actual article, I'll explain it.

Hall isn't mad that WarZ copied DayZ. He's stated multiple times that competition is good. What he's mad about is that the name and concept is so similar to DayZ that people confuse the two games, causing him to get a lot of undeserved backlash, even from his own family.

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@Colekern @azumabob I read it, the point I make stand clearly on his attitude that he created something original.

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@azumabob Are you serious? Dude, that's not the reason it's successful at all.

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@Colekern @azumabob Totally serious, it IS the reason entirely!

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@azumabob @Colekern That is not the reason at all.

So are you saying that The Walking Dead was the first ever production to be made based on surviving a zombie apocalypse? Zombie horror has gone back for many years and this game is a shot at making it playable in some way. Your reasoning makes no sense.

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@azumabob @Colekern Why so serious? We just need to kill the Batman.

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l hope the developer of war z game gets the help and support he needs from family/friends

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@sam628 Are you confused? This article is about the creator of DAY Z, not WAR Z.

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*********everyone makes mistakes in life, no need for developers to be depressed about one thing that didn't go the way they wanted the war z game to go. No one is perfect and that's what makes us a human being, and everyone can make mistakes but the important thing to remember is that everyone should learn from their mistakes and not repeat the same mistake twice.***************

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I know he is just trying to be respectable but these "developers" Clearly just ripped off all this guys work and called it their own. They "claim" that they had been working on warz way before dayz came out. Both similar games, both with similar names. Hell even the theme song of warz is a rip off of American Horror Story.

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Finally. After his milquetoast emo ramblings previous:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/day-z-creator-depressed-by-war-z-controversy-6401834

He's finally saying what he should have said all along: "These guys did nothing but rip off my work. Their game is a scam. They are terrible people."

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Right, Im a console gamer but I like new things and my main PC can comfortably play dayz and im tempted to pay the £25, is it enjoyable, is it user friendly with mouse and keyboard etc?

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@LukeWesty personally when i played it MONTHS ago. i found that the controls to be a bit clunky and obtuse. but that may have drastically changed i don't know. i would have to say that the game is alot like minecraft, but it sacrifices what minecraft has for guns, a more realistic setting and zombies, lots of zombies. so if you're really interested i would would say go ahead and try it. i will warn you though that it is a bit complicated to install (from my experiance). that's about all the advice i can give you

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@colts-500 @LukeWesty

Well I have bought it and its downloading now on steam, I have to admit the concept of it has drawn me in, but with me being short on cash I hope its worth it.

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even minez, the minecraft mod thats like dayz is better then warz. warz is just a piece of garbage.

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In an earlier comment, some one brought up some of The WAR Z creators earlier work, Big Rigs. Which reminded me I had come across a review for this game when looking for Reviews at the bottom of the barrel... (for a laugh)

So, to see earlier terrible work by the creator of The War Z, Sergay Titov, here is one terrible piece of crap, also unfinshed looking, and sold as complete.

http://www.gamespot.com/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing/videos/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing-video-review-6086530/

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To Mr. Hall, I would like to say: I know the difference. I appreciate your work, and please don't give up. I assure you once I make my computer up grade you'll have one more sincere fan. And I fully intend to get the stand-alone DayZ when it arrives. The approach to Zombie survival is wonderful, the open play is great, and although it may be hard at times to find others to work with, the benefits make it a worth while endevour. Please keep up the hard work, and for all our sakes, please don't ever resort to such a terrible game-pay style as "Free to Play, Pay to Win". The sparseness and hard work in your DayZ set-up, combined with the real-world survival simulation makes it a wonderfully needed new approach to the genre. Thank you again, and keep up the hard work.

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This game got a 2.0. Who gives a shit? I do, however, want DAYZ! Great game.

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@erix43 I think its because of the warz guys are trying to come off as they were the original ones, that they had been working on this way before dayz came out...Which i think is a load of crap. They are soo similar in some area's it reaks of a cash grab on warz's part. A player created mod is 20x better than this stand alone game.

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@erix43 Ah but it was a great harsh review, worth a good laugh, and pretty spot on about the major issues. I am sure they just saved a lot of general gamers a lot hard earned and quickly wasted cash.

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Sounds like the makings of a good lawsuit

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@Basinboy There isn't much they can do about it. They can't afford to go into a big legal battle over this. Just like all the facebook and ios games. They just aren't big enough to defend themselves.

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@Toysoldier34 @Basinboy Yeah, it's pretty sad. Here you have a small developer getting totally ripped off by someone who basically also ripped off his customers just to make a quick buck. Due to WarZ's underhanded tactics, he probably has more money for lawyers than Dean Hall does. :(

I know there's a lot of copy-catting in the gaming industry, but you'd think they could have at least come up with a better name.

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Once DayZ standalone comes out, everything will be just fine. At least 1.5 million PC gamers will get the game and nobody will be playing the WarZ ever again. Dean Hall has nothing to be depressed or worried about. The WarZ is shit and it always will be.

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@tframp420 Did... Did you actually read it?

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@tframp420 @flammable_zeus Yeah that's the point

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@tframp420 @flammable_zeus Perhaps reread it. You're asking a question that's answered in the article.

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This is just an intelligent way to get some publicity before alpha testing starts for DayZ Standalone. He isn't actually personally affected by it. Well played Mr. Hall...

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@CptYoutube I'm glad you know every detail of his life.

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hang in there, just take some anxiety meds, surround yourself with friends and family and bear through it, once you get through the tunnel and out the other side it will all have been worth it.

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I thought the War Z was Day Z standalone,,, but as soon as I found out it wasn't... instead I realized that this game was created by selfish poor game programmer who invented Big Rigs...another scam game he created. So next time IF you hear this Sirgay Titsoff person making some game, just don't buy them all together. Problem solved.

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@xover88 Did he really make Big Rigs? Didn't that get a really bad review here too? I thought I found it when looking for bottum of the barrel reviews just to see the other side of the scale.

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@xover88 Yep

Sirgay Titsoff is listed as Producer onad Developer of Big Rigs.

This Video review should help to explain the character of his work:

http://www.gamespot.com/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing/videos/big-rigs-over-the-road-racing-video-review-6086530/

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The War Z should be canned for what it is, a shoddy way of scamming people.

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Well it's no secret that when the standalone version of DayZ comes out he'll make a killing.

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@TheZara Amen. Good luck to the hardworking developers of the original mod

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When I first looked at Gamespot's review (2.0/10) the metacritic score for The War Z was a whopping 8 based on a few reviews (two reviews gave it 0, but I can't find them now for some reason). Now it's at 23/100 based on 8 reviews (user score at 1.3/10).

It's sad that Dean Hall is so personally affected by this, having family members and close friends thinking he's conning people. I can only hope that the best game wins commercially and that fans of this type of game don't hesitate getting Day Z because of what a POS The War Z turned out to be. This kind of risk taking that Dean Hall is doing should be praised.

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he should be angry.

the developer for warZ is a human garbage trying to make money out of his success, and making the guy look bad for something he had nothing to do with.

if it was me, i would try and sue the crap out of sergey.

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lol yea i didn't know they were developed by different people. its what i get for glossing over articles. yikes

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@jsmoke03 That's exactly Hall's point! average individuals won't know the difference.

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Since people will inevitably not bother to read the actual article, I'll explain it.

Hall isn't mad that WarZ copied DayZ. He's stated multiple times that competition is good. What he's mad about is that the name and concept is so similar to DayZ that people confuse the two games, causing him to get a lot of undeserved backlash, even from his own family.

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@Colekern I am staggered by how many people can not get a grip on the article...does anybody even read or comprehend what they comment on??

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@Colekern War Z is a joke. They're using a name similar to World War Z, attempting to fool people into thinking it's a related product. Not to mention stealing promotional images and more.

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@AlexFili @Colekern Don't think for a second I don't know that stuff. Trust me, I have done hours, upon hours of research. Nice to see someone else has.

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@Dean Hall

Lesson learned my friend! Life is a b*tch and people prefer to copy and get rich instead of working hard! Next time, every good idea you have, register it, patent it !

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@dalua360 Or don't tell anyone about it until you're nearly finished and no one has a chance to beat you to the finish line.

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so now your able to sell fully broken games and get away with it... dam i need to make a un playable game and release it

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@firedrakes

Sniper Ghost Warrior ? ...... this list is bigger than this page !

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