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Guardians Of The Galaxy 3's James Gunn Fired By Disney After Old Tweets Surface

Guardians Vol. 3 will be directed by someone else.

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The tale of the misfits that comprise the Guardians of the Galaxy will see their trilogy concluded with someone other than James Gunn in the director's chair. Gunn, who served as the writer and director for the first two Guardians movies, has been fired by Disney. The news confirmed the news in the midst of San Diego Comic-Con 2018, where Marvel was not expected to have any major news. [Update: Guardians star Dave Bautista has come out in support of Gunn, as has actress Selma Blair. Subsequently, the core Guardians cast also did so.]

This move comes after old tweets of Gunn's surfaced online. According to The Hollywood Reporter, the controversial messages--which date back almost a decade--see the director joking about topics like pedophilia and rape.

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Disney issues a statement confirming that it was parting ways with Gunn. Walt Disney Studios chairman Alan Horn said, "The offensive attitudes and statements discovered on James' Twitter feed are indefensible and inconsistent with our studio's values, and we have severed our business relationship with him."

Gunn's tweets were resurfaced online by conservative website The Daily Caller. Gunn has since published a series of tweets on his Twitter account in which he does not deny authoring the messages. Instead, he attempts to apologize and explain the messages.

"Many people who have followed my career know when I started, I viewed myself as a provocateur, making movies and telling jokes that were outrageous and taboo. As I have discussed publicly many times, as I've developed as a person, so has my work and my humor. It's not to say I'm better, but I am very, very different than I was a few years ago; today I try to root my work in love and connection and less in anger. My days saying something just because it's shocking and trying to get a reaction are over.

"In the past, I have apologized for humor of mine that hurt people. I truly felt sorry and meant every word of my apologies. For the record, when I made these shocking jokes, I wasn't living them out. I know this is a weird statement to make, and seems obvious, but, still, here I am, saying it. Anyway, that's the completely honest truth: I used to make a lot of offensive jokes. I don't anymore. I don't blame my past self for this, but I like myself more and feel like a more full human being and creator today. Love you to you all."

Gunn had teased that a new, non-Guardians project of his would be revealed at SDCC on Friday during the Sony Pictures panel. According to Variety, he's no longer expected to make an appearance at the panel, which is no shock--it would be a real surprise for him to show up with this news having only just broken. Whether he moves ahead with whatever that project is (possibly the horror movie we heard about previously) remains to be seen. We'll report back if Sony acknowledges the news or Gunn's project during its panel.

Guardians of the Galaxy 3 had been set for release in 2020, though Gunn's removal could affect that. The events of Avengers: Infinity War stand to have a potential impact on the film, though Avengers 4--due out next year--could always make further changes. Without saying how, Gunn had previously teased that Guardians 3 would be "very different."

Aside from his contributions to the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Gunn is also known for writing and directing the movie Super.

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Twitter was a mistake

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@Grim_DIcer: Humanity wasn't advanced enough to use social media responsibly. : \

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@Grim_DIcer: Twitter is fine, the mistake is the weak generation of today who wants to thought police the World with their arbitrary rules on how we should behave.... on the internet.

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@RogerioFM:

I'm against people getting fired over jokes, but if you actually look at this guy's tweets, they are not jokes. He had about 20 of these pedo tweets that seemed straightforward sexual fantasies with children.

Again, if that is his thing, that is his issue, but going public how much you love fucking kids is surely going to put you in trouble and it eventually did.

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@RogerioFM: Genius reply of the current world in a nutshell.

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@clay544888: Thanks man.

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lol social media only exists to expose your past and to screw you over in the future. So glad I'm not apart of it. Except for posting stupid comments on this website...

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Let the record show that the people who eagerly support a US President who advocated executing the wives and children of enemy militants, felt that the director of a fucking comic book movie just had to go for his blue jokes.

Another painful reminder that the fight against political correctness and de facto puritanism has precious little coherent constituency -- certainly not along traditional lines and institutions. Political correctness looks not only like saying you can't joke about things like race and rape, but also like shitting your pants over an NFL player kneeling during the anthem. It's a completely cynical calculation without an iota of principle -- instead of really standing against PC culture, the far-right enforces their own strains and is more than willing to weaponize the far-left strains if they think it will take down a critic of the silver-spoon man-baby. Whether it's breaking ranks with the regressive identity politickers or the Trump-humping cultists, the struggle against this pop terrorism is real.

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@Pliger: That was a real roundabout, high falutin way of saying the right and left both stink the same. : \

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@Pliger: not once did I see the president have any comments on Gunn..

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@chaseja30624559: The tweets in question were dragged up by Daily Caller, a conservative website highly sympathetic to and defensive of the president, with a history of doing this sort of thing to take down his critics.

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@Pliger: You're trying so hard to sound smart, too bad your message is not coherent enough to support the flowery language.

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@RogerioFM: It's coherent to anyone with at least a 6th grade education. Triggered much? Thanks for proving my point, Prissy.

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@Pliger:

Not really, you just rambled. Not sure anyone would get what the POINT was.

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@RogerioFM: One thing's for sure. If anyone else out there is having as much trouble as you are with reading at a 6th grade level, you acting as my handy little inline example of selective outrage in action will help clear that right up. Thank you for your service!

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@Pliger: It's funny how you argue with RogerioFM not because you have a point but because you're offended. Lmao

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@Pliger:

Outrage... does that strawman have a name? How can I be outraged about something that can't even be interpreted by a rational mind. Would you kindly try to explain your reasoning with a 4th grade level argumentation? I'm sure you'll have a much easier time explaining yourself and we can at least begin to have a discussion.

Also, are you a native English speaker? If not then I guess your concept of 6th grade grammar would be at least understandable.

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@RogerioFM: Please, my dear friend who bemoans words longer than six letters as flowery but is nonetheless excited to try his hand at grammar review: Feel free to send my comment to any English teacher at the college, high school, hell, even elementary level, and get back to me on how much trouble they had interpreting it. Meanwhile, your triggered opinion isn't that interesting.

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@Pliger: That's my point friendo, I have no idea of what you're talking about. How can I be triggered? The fact you're not even trying to elaborate proves that you have no clue of what you're talking about. Hell, I really don't mind grammar, the problem is when someone makes no sense.

Allow me to try again in a more polite manner, because I'm honestly intrigued.

"Please friend, could you please elaborate further on your first comment? I tried but I really could not understand what you meant, you sent a lot of conflicting messages and seemed to not know what some of those words truly mean. "

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@RogerioFM: Sorry... Point me to a single instance in any of your comments thus far where you mentioned these alleged "conflicting messages," or even a misuse of one, solitary word. Do you see the issue here? You replied to me. But you didn't really say anything. Your reply was content-free and passively aggressive. That's it. To your credit, you seem to grasp the concept of strawmanning, but you could use a little more study on irony; you never voiced anything but passively aggressive innuendo. "You're not making sense!" But you didn't tell me what it was you couldn't make sense of (and I very much doubt you couldn't make sense of it to begin with it). In other words, you strawmanned me.

But now's your opportunity to correct your error! Fill in the blanks for me of what you need elaborated to you. Here, I'll get the ball rolling by explaining the problem with the strawman you perceive in me referring to you as "triggered": Per the above, you did not ever reply to me in any substantive sense. Looking at the thread, I can see you agree with me about the scourge that is the SJW phenomenon and associated symptoms of it, like virtue signaling. Stuff that, in other words, is associated with a far-left political correctness. You didn't say anything about far-right political correctness, though...which is fine, of course! More than fine; you are not required to mention any given thing other than what's on your own mind. However, far-right political correctness plays a critical role in this event as it was far-right bloggers who instigated Gunn's firing. And it's something that I did mention in my comment, alongside the leftist strains. Then you replied to that with literally nothing but innuendo. Cliffs Notes!

• I was the only one in this thread, at least until recently AFAIK, that explicitly framed the problem of bipartisan political correctness.

• You never commented on the role right-wing zealots played in this, which is relevant considering they're really the reason he was fired.

• You replied to me with no substance. Again, just innuendo. Passively aggressive.

So since you didn't actually say anything on the subject of me supposedly being contradictory or not knowing what I'm talking about, I have to assume you left your passively aggressive comment because you were upset and irritated that I was criticizing the right-wing and Trump right alongside the left-wing crazies. Otherwise, you would've actually hit me on what words you thought I misused, whatever these phantom "conflicting messages" were...or not commented at all.

Hence my belief that you'd been triggered. Voilà!

Now then, will you be returning the favor of my good faith and painstakingly detailed elaboration on this point? Or are you nothing more than the troll I've been suspecting you to be? This could be an enlightening conversation, y'know... I hope you're willing to learn. I know I am!

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@Pliger:Finally we are getting somewhere. I agree with a lot of your points regarding the political correctness, virtue signaling and overall hypocrisy of such behaviors. Regarding Trump and the NFL parts of your original post as a non American those references just flew over my head. I know about the overall political climate in America and the division the Trump administration ushered in the country but whether he is a good or bad President I don't really know and to be honest, care. About the NFL, well, I just know it is something about sports, but know absolutely nothing about it's scandals.

Not knowing you were a centrist at first glance really threw me off right there which is the reason I mention the conflicting statements, one moment you sound like a raging left winger and the other like a fierce republican, that along with your Trump and NFL comments really confused me. Also the way you composed those sentences at first was really odd to me, being 6th grade level or not, my own grammar and command of the English language although not perfect in the slightest served me right thus far.

Given all that, there was no triggering on my part regarding your points since, well I couldn't make heads or tails out of it, I wasn't even passive aggressive about it, I was very blunt and mocking since for me you were, up until recently a radical which prompted me to act dismissive, I will have to admit I wasn't exactly polite in my comment, so if nothing else, I admit I made some mistakes.

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@RogerioFM: I don't even know if I would call myself a centrist. Identity politics and this larger phenomenon of people being desperate to sort and categorize themselves is so utterly repellent to me, I've just about rejected all labels. I only care about people being clear-eyed and honest, issue-to-issue, case-by-case. And part of that means recognizing political correctness has no fixed definition in terms of being a liberal or conservative phenomenon. But I so often find that people DO take it for granted that something is only PC when it's something being charged or advanced by the left. Which is very much worth broaching in cases like these.

Believe me, I'm no great NFL fan either, and you can leave aside the question of whether Trump is a good or bad president... I'm not sure where you are in the world, or what their laws and policies relating to speech, protest and demonstration are, but you probably know about the First Amendment of America's Constitution. And if you're critical of SJWs and regressivism, then I can venture a guess that you think yourself an advocate of free speech generally. I don't even necessarily completely agree with the exact reasoning behind some of those protests, but they absolutely have a right to those quiet, peaceful protests no matter how much I might disagree with them. And when the right-wing goes apeshit over it, which they do, that's as much the definition of political correctness as anything. But I didn't know you weren't familiar.

To bring it closer to gaming, we should be clear-eyed about the "feminists" going ballistic over how "harmful" polygonal bikinis are and crying bloody murder over pronouns and what games do and don't allow gay marriage, AND clear-eyed when people like Trump and the NRA demonize games in the wake of mass-shootings. You've heard of the Sandy Hook shooting in America? The one where all those little kids died. Relative to other perpetrators in the growing trend of mass-shootings, that one was more of a gamer than any of them, I believe. Played a lot of Warcraft, apparently? And Barack Obama, president at the time, never blatantly smeared video games. Just some boilerplate about he believes in studying the issue or whatever IIRC. Nor did he release a video montage designed to indict games as some manner of voodoo which turn people into murdering psychopaths. But Trump and his White House did exactly that, when there wasn't even as much of a connection with the perp. And speaking of Sandy Hook and the NRA... Wow, I just won't even get started on that one. You can Google it if you're unfamiliar, but suffice it to say, I don't think the SJWs have EVER gone as far in scapegoating and vilifying video games as the NRA did in the days following Sandy Hook.

Indeed, your English is more than competent, causing my confusion over, well, your confusion. I should have tried harder to avoid batting it back and forth like that, reprising the snark. Civility should have prevailed sooner. Oh well. Resolution is resolution.

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Sorry pal, only South Park and Family Guy can get away with that. Still, I think you did a good job.

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To be honest, I've gone to live stand up shows and heard worse than what he tweeted. Not justifying it, but I was expecting much more shocking content than what I read.

Didnt see racism or gender targeting. The rape themed were the biggest problem.

Was it in bad taste? Absolutely.

Was it something he shouldve been fired for? Not so fast. I think Disney went overboard on the virtue signaling here.

A solid, heartfelt apology (like the one he gave) wouldve probably been fine.

Then you have the conspiracy theorizing "he was a Trump critic" McCarthyism of the whole situation.

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@Richardthe3rd: Johnny Depp basically stated none of the allegations by his ex wife were false regarding spousal abuse, and yet he is still starring in the upcoming pirates movie. Which Disney and the director openly stated they refused to remove him from the movie.

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@Richardthe3rd: But those people weren't a part of Disney.

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@Richardthe3rd: I have a question: Was this guy at all on the chopping block prior to this? Any rumors or hand wringing about him or his being kicked off the project? Because if not, then I don't see where wacky conspiracy and McCarthyism enter into the equation.

Disney's decision is obviously their own, and it's likely they would have done the same thing no matter who brought this to their attention. But the fact is the ones who went trawling his Twitter feed looking for something to get him fired were Daily Caller bloggers incensed by his Trump criticism.

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@Pliger: McCarthyism is, admittedly, probably the wrong word here; I seriously doubt the Trump campaign marked Gunn as a threat themselves.

So far as I know there was zero noise about Gunn being on the chopping block prior to this; these movies were on am upward tick and I'm sure Disney had to be pleased with that. I'm not sure most of the comments in question were well known by much of the GotG's fanbase.

The sheer volume of the stuff he said that was questionable was probably enough to make him Twitter fodder and make termination viable and justifiable, tbh.

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Twitter is costing people more jobs than the Great Depression.

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@redhedjack: I know. It's awesome. It's an entirely optional platform, and those with so much to lose STILL choose to sit back in a recliner and smoke too much, drink too much, (the real evil ones are stone cold sober) and tap their fingers away on a digital keyboard revealing their TRUE selves behind the heavy masks they wear as affluent people.

It's fuckin hilarious. Like, if you hate people or are weird and creepy, don't have a twitter, it's that simple. Sadly, people cannot stop themselves from outing themselves as pieces of shitt lol :)

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@nikolistary: It's that constant crave of attention that get them to say provocative nonsensical shit. Social networks are drugs, some people just making fools of themselves for another kick. That being said, his obsession with pedo jokes is kinda disturbing, I think he should be checked by authorities.

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@se007: Who really gives a ****. I'm sure when no one's looking you do things that you'd be ashamed of if someone caught you. Quit trying to pretend you're so perfect and never have a weird side somewhere.

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@clay544888: Don't you know that Hollywood is filled with pedos and other perverts? It wouldn't surprise me one but if he's practising this shit. I suggest you read actual tweets, It's one thing if you made one stupid joke, but another if it's whole series. That kinda look suspicious.

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He has my support, he is a good director and his recent works were some of the best Marvel had to offer, most of us had an edgy past at some point and we all change as we grow older. Alan Horn can go to hell for all I care, his virtue signalling only fool those who live in the SJW bubble.

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@RogerioFM: agreed. Guardians 1 and 2 are my favorite of the marvel movies. And it seemed like after the success of 1 and 2 Disney definitely made a push for the other movies to follow his formula with the comedy and such.

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@RogerioFM: he was in his 40's when he tweeted he was way past growing older.

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@chaseja30624559: Well.... I'm not in my 40's so I can't really say how much I would change as the years went by. But I'm not sure we ever stop changing in one way or another.

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See, this is what's so BS about social media. Anything you say is just there forever. There's no room to make mistakes or say something you later realises is a really, really stupid opinion.

I mean I said and thought plenty of stuff years ago that makes me *cringe* now. I doubt there's anyone in the world who doesn't have the same experience.

We shouldn't judge someone on views they *once* held if they have grown as a person and renounced those beliefs.

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@Dragon_Nexus: Hopefully, the generation that's growing up with social media will understand its ramifications better and/or not care so much.

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@Mogan: Still though, it sucks to get fired for something you said that wasn't even said when you had the damn job.

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@Dragon_Nexus: Indeed.

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Live by the sword, die by the sword. This is what u get when u endorse attacking people for wrong think.

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Big reason why I never post anything on social media apart from retweets/sharing even if what you post is a joke someone somewhere will take it the wrong way.

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Professional relationships in our age - if people don't like your sense of humour, your ass is gonna get fired. Oh, the joke in question was made years and years ago and you have changed a lot as a person? Nah, you did it on Twitter, still gon' get fired son.

And Disney don't even pretend that this isn't virtue signalling. Whatever... I'm not even particularly into these movies. I just hate when the real joke is how absurd our culture is nowadays.

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@KaptenHaddock: I'm against people getting fired over jokes, but if you actually look at this guy's tweets, they are not jokes. He had about 20 of these pedo tweets that seemed straightforward sexual fantasies with children.

Again, if that is his thing, that is his issue, but going public how much you love fucking kids is surely going to put you in trouble and it eventually did.

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@slickr:

Nobody fired Louis C. K. when he did it. That was before recent events.

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@KaptenHaddock: Disney has been doing that since the 90s

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Your past can always come back to bite you

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@cerbthetridog: yeah, The File is a *itch that has us all by the balls. For better or worse.

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It’s not nice what he did so I guess Disney made right move. James has destroyed his career.

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@playstationzone: Yeah, he sank his future career when he wrote those tweets literally 10 years ago.

Can you imagine saying something stupid today that you perhaps regret even a month from now and then suddenly in 2028 someone hears of it and now you're fired?

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@Dragon_Nexus: It's super dumb, and totally undermines the idea of personal growth and rehabilitation. You can't come out and own a mistake, you have to hide it or you're fired. You can't apologize and be held to a higher standard, because it's one strike and you're out.

It's like the gal who got canned at ArenaNet recently; so much for giving her a chance to do better and become a better person; just straight to fired.

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@Mogan: That's a VERY different scenario. Jessica tried to turn was was her own assholish attitude towards an Arenanet partner into a gender politice and gender-in-the-workplace issue, which it never was. She talked to him like some stupid man child when all he was trying to do was have an honest debate with a writer he respected.

I imagine (pure speculation here) Arenanet gave her the choice of apologising or leave. Her attitude throughout is that she never did anything wrong when she clearly did. Her outright refusal to chat with Deroir and just say "Things got heated, I wasn't in a good place, I apologise" says everything about her character.

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@Mogan: That girl refused to learn though. She never apologized for what she said, and she was acting like the guy who was making a suggestion in a very rational way, was saying it because she was a woman (even though he not once brought up her gender).

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@Doomerang: Far as I can tell, most of her "It's the misogyny!" rant happened after she got fired. I guess that could be her not learning her lesson about saying **** on Twitter, but from what ANet said, she got fired for being rude to a guy who probably didn't deserve it.
I can't really get all that upset any developers who have to interact with gamers on the internet; I'm sure she had to deal with dumb bull**** 24/7. She just snapped at the wrong person. Unless that was the last in a long string of her being ****ty to people online, getting fired for being kinda rude once is crap.

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